bcotton's meeting titled "Fedora 29 Release Retrospective" ended in
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Notification time stamped 2018-11-14 17:06:02 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: Fedora 29 Release Retrospective
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Meeting started by bcotton at 16:03:11 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-11-14/fedora_29_r...
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Meeting summary
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* Discussion is primarily on Jitsi. This room is mostly for note-taking.
Please feel free to add your own notes to the minutes (bcotton,
16:03:19)
* LINK: https://meet.jit.si/GuiltyCherriesSearchLoyally (bcotton,
16:03:21)
* Topic ideas (bcotton, 16:03:34)
* Unannounced changes to core packages (bcotton, 16:05:33)
* "Go" decision despite bugs with updates (bcotton, 16:08:50)
* 97% update bug couldn't be reproduced on a clean system because it
was trigged by having some multilib packages installed (bcotton,
16:11:42)
* ACTION: fzatlouk to propose adding multilib upgrade to release
criteria (bcotton, 16:18:34)
* missing spins at release (bcotton, 16:19:18)
* The question is "how do we balance getting the release in a
predictable manner versus letting spins ship when they're ready"
(bcotton, 16:22:11)
* cloud ppc64le didn't ship because of an intermittent failure on the
one compose that happened to end up being the RC (bcotton,
16:23:12)
* fzatlouk suggests someone from Spin SIG signs up for releng issues
on Pagure so that they get an email with failed deliverables with
each build (bcotton, 16:29:52)
* AGREED: It would be nice to give Spins the ability to release after
the main release if they need to (bcotton, 16:34:58)
* mattdm suggests giving each spin owner a "go" button that they have
to push in order for the spin to be published (bcotton, 16:35:29)
* ACTION: bcotton to discuss mattdm's suggestion with releng
(bcotton, 16:36:43)
* SELinux denials the first few days after install (bcotton, 16:38:12)
* SELinux denials violate release criteria (bcotton, 16:39:30)
* No SELinux notifications were not seeing during the last phase of
testing (bcotton, 16:41:40)
* The SELinux troubleshooting applet is no longer on the default
Workstation install (bcotton, 16:41:58)
* ACTION: jlandato propose changes to the release criteria to reflect
the fact that the SELinux troubleshooting applet is no longer in the
default Workstation install. The criterion shoudl be dropped or
modified to reflect reality (bcotton, 16:46:10)
* Cisco openh264 repo (bcotton, 16:47:20)
* mboddu worked with Cisco to get it fixed (bcotton, 16:52:11)
* we cannot do anything on this as there was a delay on their end when
I shipped them the rpms (bcotton, 16:52:18)
* A step has been added to verify that the files are really there
before doing the repodata updates (bcotton, 16:53:30)
* Open floor (bcotton, 16:54:54)
* Spins (particularly KDE) need to provide more input for the Talking
Points (bcotton, 16:58:51)
Meeting ended at 17:06:02 UTC.
Action Items
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* fzatlouk to propose adding multilib upgrade to release criteria
* bcotton to discuss mattdm's suggestion with releng
* jlandato propose changes to the release criteria to reflect the fact
that the SELinux troubleshooting applet is no longer in the default
Workstation install. The criterion shoudl be dropped or modified to
reflect reality
Action Items, by person
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* bcotton
* bcotton to discuss mattdm's suggestion with releng
* jlanda
* jlandato propose changes to the release criteria to reflect the fact
that the SELinux troubleshooting applet is no longer in the default
Workstation install. The criterion shoudl be dropped or modified to
reflect reality
* mattdm
* bcotton to discuss mattdm's suggestion with releng
* **UNASSIGNED**
* fzatlouk to propose adding multilib upgrade to release criteria
People Present (lines said)
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* bcotton (61)
* mboddu (14)
* x3mlinux (13)
* zodbot (10)
* nirik (8)
* jlanda (3)
* mattdm (3)
* frantisekz (3)
* dustymabe (1)
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