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Qalthos's meeting titled "Ansible Network Working Group" ended in #ansible-network

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-05 17:02:02 UTC =============================================== #ansible-network: Ansible Network Working Group =============================================== Meeting started by Qalthos at 15:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-network/2018-09-05/ansible_netw... . Meeting summary --------------- * Core Team Updates (Qalthos, 16:01:07) * 2.7 is branched, devel is now 2.8 (Qalthos, 16:01:43) * 2.7rc1 is tomorrow, by last report (Qalthos, 16:02:22) * * fixing issues with ios_user (Qalthos, 16:03:49) * * working on issues related to asa_config/asa_acl/asa_command (Qalthos, 16:03:59) * * vyos provider role WIP (Qalthos, 16:04:15) * * configure_user task updates for eos & nxos (Qalthos, 16:04:26) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/community/labels/network is our agenda as always (Qalthos, 16:05:21) * Open Floor (Qalthos, 16:06:10) Meeting ended at 17:02:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Qalthos (37) * zodbot (8) * Anil_Lenovo (7) * lindsayhill_ (6) * bearrito (6) * bcoca (2) * caphrim007_ (1) * dagrawal (0) * gundalow (0) * privateip (0) * trishnag (0) * ganeshrn (0) * rcarrillocruz (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-network/2018-09-05/ansible_netw... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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pbokoc's meeting titled "Fedora Docs" ended in #fedora-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-05 16:01:28 UTC ============================ #fedora-meeting: Fedora Docs ============================ Meeting started by pbokoc at 15:30:39 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-05/fedora_docs.2... . Meeting summary --------------- * This meeting is open to anyone who wants to bring up anything related to Fedora Docs. (pbokoc, 15:31:30) * It's Release Notes season now; see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/docs@lists.fedoraproject.or... for details (pbokoc, 15:33:38) Meeting ended at 16:01:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pbokoc (14) * bcotton (10) * zodbot (6) * Southern_Gentlem (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-05/fedora_docs.2... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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leanderthal's meeting titled "RDO meeting - 2018-09-05" ended in #rdo

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-05 15:49:40 UTC ============================== #rdo: RDO meeting - 2018-09-05 ============================== Meeting started by leanderthal at 15:00:56 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2018-09-05/rdo_meeting_-_2018-09-05... . Meeting summary --------------- * rollcall (leanderthal, 15:01:05) * RDO community involvement in OpenStack's rpm-packaging project (leanderthal, 15:06:03) * LINK: https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html (leanderthal, 15:07:30) * ACTION: jpena to keep the email thread open for 2 weeks (jpena, 15:16:02) * ACTION: jruzicka and number80 to reply to jpena 's email thread https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html (leanderthal, 15:16:11) * PTG lunch? (leanderthal, 15:16:58) * LINK: https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-September/008899.html (leanderthal, 15:17:13) * OpenStack Rocky released 30 August https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/ (leanderthal, 15:27:21) * LINK: https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/ (leanderthal, 15:27:38) * RDO Rocky released 30 August http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-rocky/ (leanderthal, 15:27:54) * LINK: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-rocky/ (leanderthal, 15:28:03) * LINK: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-rocky-release (leanderthal, 15:31:42) * OpenStack PTG 10-14 September and is officially the last separate event (leanderthal, 15:33:11) * LINK: https://ttx.re/future-of-ptg.html (leanderthal, 15:33:21) * 2018 CentOS Dojo / RDO Day at CERN 18-19 October (leanderthal, 15:36:10) * LINK: https://indico.cern.ch/event/727150/ (leanderthal, 15:36:14) * PTG project interviews (leanderthal, 15:38:27) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19XjQPeE9ZobK1b49aM-J7P-xQC-OKLNeF... (leanderthal, 15:39:46) * next week's chair (leanderthal, 15:40:09) * open floor (leanderthal, 15:43:23) Meeting ended at 15:49:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jpena to keep the email thread open for 2 weeks * jruzicka and number80 to reply to jpena 's email thread https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jpena * jpena to keep the email thread open for 2 weeks * jruzicka and number80 to reply to jpena 's email thread https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html * jruzicka * jruzicka and number80 to reply to jpena 's email thread https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html * number80 * jruzicka and number80 to reply to jpena 's email thread https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-August/008895.html * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * leanderthal (91) * number80 (17) * zodbot (14) * jpena (12) * openstack (12) * mjturek (8) * jruzicka (5) * baha (2) * PagliaccisCloud (1) * rdogerrit (1) * ykarel (1) * dmsimard (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2018-09-05/rdo_meeting_-_2018-09-05... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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pbrobinson's meeting titled "Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-05 14:59:18 UTC ================================================= #fedora-meeting: Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting ================================================= Meeting started by pbrobinson at 14:03:35 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-05/fedora_iot_wo... . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (pbrobinson, 14:03:36) * 1) ==== Working Group process and admin ==== (pbrobinson, 14:06:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InternetOfThings/PRD (pbrobinson, 14:10:34) * PRD review (pbrobinson, 14:10:40) * Fedora IoT Vision Statement (pbrobinson, 14:11:51) * Fedora IoT Mission Statement (pbrobinson, 14:14:40) * Market Opportunity (pbrobinson, 14:17:00) * Edition Objectives (pbrobinson, 14:18:23) * User Profiles, Primary Use Cases and Goals (pbrobinson, 14:23:37) * Personas (pbrobinson, 14:24:53) * Use Cases (pbrobinson, 14:38:52) * Logistical Concerns (pbrobinson, 14:50:40) * going to mash delivery/docs/sucess into this (pbrobinson, 14:51:06) * ACTION: pbrobinson to incorporate notes from this meeting into the PRD and send out a email to the list for last calls by tomorrow morning (pbrobinson, 14:54:29) * 2) ==== Open Floor ==== (pbrobinson, 14:54:47) * I'm just going to lump all the usual nightly and tech bits into open floor (pbrobinson, 14:55:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InternetOfThings/GettingStarted (pbrobinson, 14:57:33) Meeting ended at 14:59:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pbrobinson to incorporate notes from this meeting into the PRD and send out a email to the list for last calls by tomorrow morning Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pbrobinson * pbrobinson to incorporate notes from this meeting into the PRD and send out a email to the list for last calls by tomorrow morning * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pbrobinson (69) * tim-jones (23) * ipcloud (10) * zodbot (9) * jsmith (5) * pwhalen (4) * bcotton (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-05/fedora_iot_wo... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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bcotton's meeting titled "Council (2018-09-05)" ended in #fedora-meeting-1

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-05 14:45:39 UTC ======================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Council (2018-09-05) ======================================= Meeting started by bcotton at 14:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-09-05/council.201... . Meeting summary --------------- * Introductions, Welcomes (bcotton, 14:00:35) * Today's agenda (bcotton, 14:04:41) * Quick update from dperpeet (bcotton, 14:04:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1966 (dperpeet, 14:05:59) * LINK: https://jenkins-continuous-infra.apps.ci.centos.org/view/Fedora%20All%20P... (dperpeet, 14:07:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Continuous_Integration_and_Deli... (mattdm, 14:11:46) * Tickets recommended for close (bcotton, 14:14:49) * Tickets will be closed in 24 hours unless someone objects (bcotton, 14:14:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/188 (bcotton, 14:14:56) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/112 (bcotton, 14:14:58) * Permission for making embroidered Fedora shirts (bcotton, 14:17:38) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/182 (bcotton, 14:17:40) * Vote is currently +2,0,0 after 3 months (bcotton, 14:17:41) * AGREED: Ticket #182 is approved (bcotton, 14:19:00) * Code of Conduct Updates (bcotton, 14:19:12) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/145 (bcotton, 14:19:13) * Blocks 71, 91, 105, 109, 111 (bcotton, 14:19:14) * Recreate FAD templates / planning resources (bcotton, 14:21:08) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/138 (bcotton, 14:21:09) * Waiting on bexelbie (bcotton, 14:21:10) * Clarify trademark guidelines on modified hosted Fedora images (bcotton, 14:22:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/198 (bcotton, 14:23:00) * ausil is waiting for feedback (bcotton, 14:23:02) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tfYKaG6ANeEvMYfitA8uRo8Kk9OnC08gcgWE4... (bcotton, 14:23:38) * Council Members please submit a short bio (bcotton, 14:26:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/146 (bcotton, 14:26:56) * tyll, robyduck, langdon, dperpeet, pbrobinson all are missing bios (bcotton, 14:26:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/blob/master/f/council/modul... (tyll, 14:29:41) * AGREED: Bios that are still empty in 1 week will be lazily researched and submitted by bcotton with no guarantees as to quality or accuracy (bcotton, 14:33:36) * Explain why people should create an Objective (bcotton, 14:37:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/180 (bcotton, 14:37:21) * mattdm says it is on his plate (bcotton, 14:37:23) * Other open tickets (bcotton, 14:42:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issues (bcotton, 14:42:35) * Next meeting is open floor (bcotton, 14:45:35) Meeting ended at 14:45:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (89) * mattdm (47) * dperpeet (28) * langdon (13) * zodbot (11) * tyll (6) * pbrobinson (2) * ausil (0) * jkurik (0) * robyduck (0) * amsharma (0) * bex (0) * jwboyer (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-09-05/council.201... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jborean93's meeting titled "Ansible Windows Working Group" ended in #ansible-windows

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-04 20:49:05 UTC =============================================== #ansible-windows: Ansible Windows Working Group =============================================== Meeting started by jborean93 at 20:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2018-09-04/ansible_wind... . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/modules/cloud/v... (dag, 20:18:39) Meeting ended at 20:49:05 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jborean93 (49) * nitzmahone (30) * dag (23) * jhawkesworth_ (19) * zodbot (8) * nitmzahone (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2018-09-04/ansible_wind... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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bcoca's meeting titled "ansible core irc public meeting" ended in #ansible-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-04 19:14:37 UTC ================================================= #ansible-meeting: ansible core irc public meeting ================================================= Meeting started by bcoca at 19:01:50 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2018-09-04/ansible_core... . Meeting summary --------------- * open floor (bcoca, 19:02:06) Meeting ended at 19:14:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcoca (8) * zodbot (5) * ryansb (3) * shertel (1) * jhawkesworth_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2018-09-04/ansible_core... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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adamwill's meeting titled "F29-blocker-review" ended in #fedora-blocker-review

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-04 19:09:50 UTC ========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F29-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2018-09-04/f29-bl... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:12) * Introduction (adamw, 16:06:22) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:22) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:22) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:24) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:26) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:34) * 9 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:06:41) * 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:06:42) * 24 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:06:46) * 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:06:48) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:14) * starting with the proposed blockers (adamw, 16:07:26) * (1596540) RuntimeError: C++ std::exception: Exec failed: no such table: main.trans_cmdline (adamw, 16:07:33) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1596540 (adamw, 16:07:33) * Proposed Blocker, dnf, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:07:33) * AGREED: 1596540 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a blocker as a violation of "The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove, and update software with the default console tool for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated." (adamw, 16:22:10) * (1625259) RuntimeError: TransactionItem not found for key (adamw, 16:22:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625259 (adamw, 16:22:16) * Proposed Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 16:22:16) * AGREED: 1625259 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - while DNF tracebacks are always bad, this doesn't seem to cause permanent problems and the functionality that fails is not in the criteria (and not hugely important). we are open to considering FE status once the bug and fix are more clearly understood (adamw, 16:41:10) * (1623868) default libvirt/container networking (NAT based AFIACT) broken in F-29 (adamw, 16:41:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623868 (adamw, 16:41:30) * Proposed Blocker, firewalld, ON_QA (adamw, 16:41:30) * AGREED: 1623868 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the same release" and its footnote (adamw, 16:44:52) * (1624534) Transition from g-i-s to desktop fails in current Rawhide and F29 (adamw, 16:45:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624534 (adamw, 16:45:01) * Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 16:45:01) * AGREED: 1624534 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility." (adamw, 16:50:15) * (1625269) The Region and Languages section displays in a very small window and therefore is difficult to use. (adamw, 16:50:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625269 (adamw, 16:50:29) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 16:50:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_a... (adamw, 16:52:13) * AGREED: 1625269 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a Final (not Beta) blocker, violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test." also accepted as Beta FE as a major bug in GNOME that should be fixed in the live images (adamw, 17:00:35) * (1625253) gnome-shell on wayland might crash when moving bookmark in nautilus (adamw, 17:00:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625253 (adamw, 17:00:51) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:00:51) * AGREED: 1625253 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a Final (not Beta) blocker, violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test." also accepted as Beta FE as a major bug in GNOME that should be fixed in the live images (adamw, 17:14:51) * (1619389) mod_ssl does not work with TLS 1.3-enabled openssl (adamw, 17:16:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1619389 (adamw, 17:16:30) * Proposed Blocker, httpd, ON_QA (adamw, 17:16:30) * AGREED: 1619389 - punt (delay decision) - it's still not clear if there's a criteria violation here, and it's already accepted as an FE issue. we will try to clarify if there's a criteria violation here in time for next week (adamw, 17:27:29) * (1616269) [abrt] xorg-x11-server-Xwayland: OsLookupColor(): Display server crashed (adamw, 17:27:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616269 (adamw, 17:27:36) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:27:36) * AGREED: 1616269 - punt (delay decision) on blocker status, AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we're still worried about this bug, but still don't know how widespread the impact may be. We accept it as a Beta FE issue, and will send out a call for testing before voting on blocker status (adamw, 17:48:54) * (1620584) XWayland crashes on start up and causes the terminal to be unresponsive. (adamw, 17:49:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1620584 (adamw, 17:49:02) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:49:02) * AGREED: 1620584 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - crashes like this are obviously bad, but so far it does not seem to affect anyone else, and lruzicka could not reproduce it on the initially affected system during the meeting. we will reconsider if more information emerges (adamw, 18:03:10) * moving onto proposed FEs, with some on-the-fly prioritization (adamw, 18:04:11) * (1622545) Extremely slow launching of apps on F29 (adamw, 18:04:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1622545 (adamw, 18:04:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, at-spi2-core, ON_QA (adamw, 18:04:18) * AGREED: 1622545 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is obviously undesirable for the Workstation live and could not be fixed with an update for that case (adamw, 18:09:40) * (1598523) Make BootLoaderSpec-style configuration files the default (adamw, 18:09:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598523 (adamw, 18:09:50) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Changes Tracking, ON_QA (adamw, 18:09:50) * LINK: https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/1545 , i think (adamw, 18:14:07) * AGREED: 1598523 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a major functional change (and Change) which should have landed much earlier, it is not appropriate and potentially highly destabilizing for it to go in as a freeze exception now. (adamw, 18:23:37) * (1624838) package python3-behave-1.2.6-1.fc29.noarch conflicts with python2-behave < 1.2.6 provided by python2-behave-1.2.5-23.fc28.noarch (adamw, 18:24:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624838 (adamw, 18:24:12) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, ON_QA (adamw, 18:24:12) * AGREED: 1624838 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this prevents upgrades without --allowerasing which can be destructive; it merits an FE to allow upgrades with this package and without updates-testing or --allowerasing to proceed (adamw, 18:31:03) * (1623471) Spurious connection errors: "Server did not return a valid TLS certificate" (adamw, 18:31:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623471 (adamw, 18:31:23) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnutls, ON_QA (adamw, 18:31:23) * AGREED: 1623471 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this breaks major functionality of Evolution and other apps which are included in the Workstation live, thus cannot be fully fixed with an update (adamw, 18:37:52) * (1623132) krita is outdated in F29 and depends on libraw.so.16 (adamw, 18:38:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623132 (adamw, 18:38:02) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, krita, VERIFIED (adamw, 18:38:02) * AGREED: 1623132 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this results in packages being silently left off the KDE live images, which obviously we want to fix (adamw, 18:40:53) * (1625053) Icons missing for LXQt application menu (adamw, 18:40:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625053 (adamw, 18:40:54) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxqt-panel, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:40:54) * AGREED: 1625053 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this issue affects one of our live images and cannot be resolved with an update, fix is clearly limited to lxqt only, cannot break anything else (adamw, 18:44:38) * (1624739) Upgrade from F28 fails due to different names of subpackage (adamw, 18:44:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624739 (adamw, 18:44:48) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, lxqt-themes, ON_QA (adamw, 18:44:48) * AGREED: 1624739 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this prevents upgrades without --allowerasing which can be destructive; it merits an FE to allow upgrades with this package and without updates-testing or --allowerasing to proceed (adamw, 18:51:23) * (1575328) Xorg crashes after latest mesa update (adamw, 18:51:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575328 (adamw, 18:51:26) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mesa, ON_QA (adamw, 18:51:26) * AGREED: 1575328 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this fixes failure of X to start on some hardware, which is important and cannot be fixed with an update. We do note this fix involves significant change to critical components and should be carefully tested (adamw, 18:55:54) * (1624353) Xfce: Sorry, your Window Manager does not support compositing (adamw, 18:56:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624353 (adamw, 18:56:06) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xfwm4, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:56:06) * AGREED: 1624353 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this bug affects live and ARM disk image media and thus cannot be fixed fully with an update. The change here seems well planned and in accordance with upstream's intentions, and can be reverted if it turns out to cause problems (adamw, 19:02:33) * Open floor (adamw, 19:04:21) * there are many remaining proposed FEs, but we are at time; many seem to be FTBFS bugs, and there's no obvious reason to grant Beta FE purely because a package is FTBFS (adamw, 19:04:47) Meeting ended at 19:09:50 UTC. 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Notification time stamped 2018-09-04 16:00:11 UTC ==================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora QA Meeting ==================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:02:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-09-04/fedora-qa.2... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 15:02:08) * Previous meeting follow up (adamw, 15:09:23) * "adamw to send out mail about F29 Change review" - welp, I forgot this was an action item, but I did it anyway! - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.or... (adamw, 15:10:06) * Fedora 29 general status (adamw, 15:12:14) * Fedora 29 is frozen for Beta as of 2018-08-27 (adamw, 15:15:13) * Fedora 29 Beta Go/No-Go is currently scheduled for 2018-09-13, meaning we have nine days to beat it into shape (adamw, 15:18:33) * there are critical known bugs with dbus and grub2 currently, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623781 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624532 : note these did not reach F29 'stable' so are not technically blockers (adamw, 15:20:03) * we have so far escalated one blocker to FESCo, https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974 (adamw, 15:20:42) * Fedora 29 Change status (adamw, 15:26:24) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplemen... is definitely not 'code complete' - the update that attempted part of its implementation is the one that caused https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623781 (failed boots for everyone) (adamw, 15:35:16) * there are also known bugs related to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuTLS-TLS1.3 , at least https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623471 (adamw, 15:53:21) * Test Day update (adamw, 15:54:01) * today (2018-09-04) is i18n Test Day, we then have Virtualization (2018-09-11), Silverblue (2018-09-20), Java (2018-09-26), Cloud (2018-10-01) (adamw, 15:54:49) * GNOME Test Day is waiting on the maintainer returning from vacation, DNF Test Day is waiting on DNF 3.4 release (adamw, 15:55:15) * Open floor (adamw, 15:55:40) Meeting ended at 16:00:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (85) * cmurf (41) * sumantro (13) * zodbot (12) * lruzicka (6) * coremodule (6) * kparal (5) * frantisekz (4) * Sumantro (3) * pbrobinson (2) * davdunc (2) * lbrabec (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-09-04/fedora-qa.2... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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Notification time stamped 2018-09-04 15:24:56 UTC ======================== #fedora-meeting: kde-sig ======================== Meeting started by rdieter at 15:02:43 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-04/kde-sig.2018-... . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (rdieter, 15:02:53) * rdieter tosky present (rdieter, 15:03:31) * tellico (rdieter, 15:06:16) * Qt-5.11.1 f28 update (rdieter, 15:09:45) * LINK: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-bea1e0b465 (rdieter, 15:11:21) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1984 (rdieter, 15:11:41) * open discussion (rdieter, 15:21:13) Meeting ended at 15:24:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rdieter (42) * tosky (12) * zodbot (8) * lruzicka (2) * adamw (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-09-04/kde-sig.2018-... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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