Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Summary for 2020-03-31
by Mohan Boddu
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#fedora-meeting-3: RELENG (2020-03-31)
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Meeting started by mboddu at 15:01:13 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* init process (mboddu, 15:01:13)
* #8957 Nonpackagers can review packages (mboddu, 15:04:05)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8957 (mboddu, 15:04:11)
* Alternate Arch Updates (mboddu, 15:16:48)
* #8690 Can't build module with dependency on module in RHEL - From
fedora-infrastructure (mboddu, 15:37:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8690 (mboddu,
15:37:21)
* mboddu will schedule a meeting with koji folks to discuss how we can
achieve this (mboddu, 15:47:24)
* Open Floor (mboddu, 15:47:28)
* Next week Tuesday Fedora F32 Final Freeze starts (mboddu, 15:47:53)
Meeting ended at 15:54:35 UTC.
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* (none)
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* sharkcz (24)
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* tdawson (1)
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* pbrobinson (0)
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mkonecny's meeting titled "Fedora Infrastructure Sustaining Daily
Standup Meeting" ended in #fedora-admin
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Notification time stamped 2020-03-31 14:22:32 UTC
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#fedora-admin: Fedora Infrastructure Sustaining Daily Standup Meeting
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Meeting started by mkonecny at 14:05:26 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (mkonecny,
14:05:26)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (mkonecny,
14:05:26)
* Item needing reviews (mkonecny, 14:05:26)
* Work In Progress (mkonecny, 14:08:58)
* Blockers (mkonecny, 14:14:01)
* Questions (mkonecny, 14:17:00)
* Ending meeting (mkonecny, 14:22:32)
* Thank you all for coming. See you next business day. (mkonecny,
14:22:32)
Meeting ended at 14:22:32 UTC.
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* (none)
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aday's meeting titled "Workstation WG (2020-03-17)" ended in
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Notification time stamped 2020-03-31 13:09:19 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-03-17)
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Meeting started by aday at 13:07:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (aday, 13:07:20)
* present: tpopela, cmurf, kalev, neal, jens, aday, feborges, langdon,
mcatanzaro, mclasen (aday, 13:07:22)
* regrets: (aday, 13:07:24)
* missing: owen (aday, 13:07:26)
* Approve minutes for 10 & 17 March (aday, 13:07:30)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-03-1...
(aday, 13:07:34)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-03-24/workstation...
(aday, 13:07:36)
* AGREED: No objections: minutes approved (aday, 13:07:41)
* Announcements (aday, 13:07:43)
* Allan: good progress has been made on the federa-workstation repos
on install media issue (#??) (aday, 13:07:46)
* Kalev: OpenH264 (#84) - the f32 beta has the cross-repo recommends
now; this revealed a DNF issue (needed to be fixed anyway) (aday,
13:07:48)
* Previous action items for thermald (#71) (aday, 13:07:57)
* cmurf to start a discussion on 01.org: not done but in queue (aday,
13:07:59)
* There is a change proposal from Ben, which the WG said no to last
week, because it depends on non-free software (aday, 13:08:18)
* No volunteers to start the devel@ thread; cmurf will do it if no one
else steps up (aday, 13:08:21)
* Previous action items for automatically adding new packages when
upgrading (aday, 13:08:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1814306 (aday,
13:08:25)
* cmurf filed the DNF bug, although it turns out that it's actually
not a bug (aday, 13:08:27)
* This seems to be an architectural issue with DNF. It's unclear
whether the issue will get fixed. We might need to work around it.
(aday, 13:08:34)
* ACTION: Neal and Kalev to help Chris come up with a workaround for
the issue, to ensure that earlyoom gets installed on F32 (aday,
13:08:44)
* ACTION: Neal and Kalev to work out a more generic solution for F33;
it will likely require some policy work (aday, 13:08:50)
* Reconsider updates policy (aday, 13:08:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/107 (aday,
13:08:55)
* AGREED: Users should be notified about regular notifications every 2
weeks. (aday, 13:09:09)
* Deferred topics (aday, 13:09:11)
* Encryption of user data (excludes system) -
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 (aday, 13:09:13)
* Encryption of system data (excludes user) -
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/136 (aday, 13:09:15)
* Review Taiga kanban -
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/workstation-wg-1/kanban
(aday, 13:09:17)
Meeting ended at 13:09:19 UTC.
Action Items
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* Neal and Kalev to help Chris come up with a workaround for the issue,
to ensure that earlyoom gets installed on F32
* Neal and Kalev to work out a more generic solution for F33; it will
likely require some policy work
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issue, to ensure that earlyoom gets installed on F32
* Neal and Kalev to work out a more generic solution for F33; it will
likely require some policy work
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Renault's meeting titled "Fedora-fr" ended in #fedora-meeting-1
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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by Renault at 18:31:11 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:31:32)
* ACTION: renault publier PV de l'AG (Renault, 18:31:56)
* Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 18:33:30)
* Marketing (Renault, 18:34:09)
* Documentation (Renault, 18:35:36)
* Traduction (Renault, 18:36:14)
* Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:37:14)
* LINK: https://lwn.net/Articles/816282/ (misc, 18:40:35)
* Discussions Libres (Renault, 18:42:12)
Meeting ended at 18:45:46 UTC.
Action Items
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* renault publier PV de l'AG
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* renault publier PV de l'AG
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adamwill's meeting titled "F32-blocker-review" ended in
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#fedora-blocker-review: F32-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:26)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:04:39)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:04:40)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:04:40)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:04:40)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:04:44)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:04:46)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:04:48)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:50)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:52)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:54)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:04:56)
* 7 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:05:00)
* 2 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:05:00)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:05:05)
* 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:05:05)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:57)
* proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:08:16)
* (1816098) blivet-gui fail to create a encrypted PV/VG partition
(adamw, 16:08:36)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1816098 (adamw,
16:08:36)
* Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, POST (adamw, 16:08:36)
* AGREED: 1816098 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation
of "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable
partition layout using any file system and/or container format
combination offered in a default installer configuration." (adamw,
16:13:00)
* (1812596) repoquery suddenly missing results in --whatrequires on
Fedora 32+ (seem to be related to virtual provides) (adamw, 16:13:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1812596 (adamw,
16:13:05)
* Proposed Blocker, dnf, POST (adamw, 16:13:06)
* AGREED: 1812596 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - there is no indication
that this breaks any of the release criteria, or any other
justification for blocking release on this (adamw, 16:20:52)
* (1816547) Firefox not using langpacks for localization (adamw,
16:20:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1816547 (adamw,
16:20:59)
* Proposed Blocker, firefox, NEW (adamw, 16:20:59)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/master/f/comps-f33.xml.in#_657
(adamw, 16:26:46)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_path_package#Actions
(kparal, 16:26:51)
* AGREED: 1816547 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - firefox is unambiguously
marked critical path in comps, so this seems like it must violate
"All critical path actions on release-blocking desktops must
correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available
for use." (adamw, 16:38:58)
* (1813515) [abrt] gnome-shell: cogl_matrix_stack_pop(): gnome-shell
killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 16:39:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1813515 (adamw,
16:39:02)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, POST (adamw, 16:39:02)
* AGREED: 1813515 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a
conditional violation of "All elements of the default panel (or
equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
function correctly in typical use" with reference also to "All known
bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or
documented at Common F32 bugs" (as Shell crashes can often cause
data loss) (adamw, 16:46:44)
* (1817082) gnome-shell: SIGSEGV when locking screen (adamw, 16:46:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1817082 (adamw,
16:46:57)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:46:57)
* AGREED: 1817082 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - so far this seems
somehow unique to sgallagh, others with same and similar laptops
cannot reproduce it and we can find no indication anyone else has
hit it in FAF or upstream gitlab (adamw, 16:55:30)
* (1816761) in Wayland VM text is selected from line above pointer
(adamw, 16:55:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1816761 (adamw,
16:55:41)
* Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (adamw, 16:55:41)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1094 has more
detail on the issue (adamw, 16:59:15)
* LINK: https://i.imgur.com/hUOIFso.png (kparal, 17:01:08)
* AGREED: 1816761 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation
of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration
in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical
use" and other desktop criteria when running in a VM using 'seamless
mouse pointer' mode (which virt-manager and Boxes use by default)
(adamw, 17:03:36)
* (1817708) The desktop session will not start. (adamw, 17:03:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1817708 (adamw,
17:03:45)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-desktop, NEW (adamw, 17:03:45)
* AGREED: 1817708 - punt (delay decision) - it would be good to have a
few more folks try this out on different systems to confirm whether
it's gone away (adamw, 17:15:57)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:16:16)
* that was all the proposed blockers (adamw, 17:16:21)
* we already accepted 1816547 and 1816761 as blockers, so we'll skip
those (adamw, 17:16:48)
* (1814872) Lenovo T450s Touchpad barely works (adamw, 17:16:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1814872 (adamw,
17:16:53)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kernel, NEW (adamw, 17:16:54)
* AGREED: 1814872 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is a
significant bug that makes use of a live image and initial
installation difficult on affected systems, and those situations
cannot be fixed with an update (adamw, 17:22:03)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:22:34)
* that's all the proposals, let's check in briefly on accepted bugs
(adamw, 17:22:41)
* (1768206) DNF prompts for GPG key import for
"repo_gpgcheck=1"-repositories despite "rpm --import"-ing the keys
first (adamw, 17:22:48)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1768206 (adamw,
17:22:48)
* Accepted Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 17:22:48)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1768206#c18
(adamw, 17:27:11)
* there seem to be some perspective differences here, we have added a
comment trying to clarify current state and requirements (adamw,
17:30:19)
* (1815463) It's impossible to create another user account through KDE
System Settings (adamw, 17:32:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815463 (adamw,
17:32:26)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-user-manager, NEW (adamw, 17:32:26)
* it is not clear if this bug has been resolved for sure, we will ask
frantisek to re-test and give his current experience (adamw,
17:41:59)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:44:53)
Meeting ended at 18:00:30 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (179)
* lruzicka (51)
* kparal (49)
* cmurf (31)
* frantisekz (26)
* pwhalen (18)
* zodbot (13)
* Southern_Gentlem (12)
* bcotton (10)
* coremodule (8)
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* sumantro (2)
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zbyszek's meeting titled "FESCO (2020-03-30)" ended in
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Notification time stamped 2020-03-30 16:25:03 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2020-03-30)
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Meeting started by zbyszek at 15:00:11 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* #2358 Drop the restriction on tagging for fedora-release (zbyszek,
15:02:45)
* AGREED: APPROVED (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:11:41)
* #2360 RPM 4.16 and sqlite db changes for Fedora 33 (zbyszek,
15:11:57)
* AGREED: APPROVED (both parts) (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:18:47)
* DNF prompts for GPG key import for "repo_gpgcheck=1"-repositories
despite "rpm --import"-ing the keys first (zbyszek, 15:18:58)
* Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2
(zbyszek, 15:29:31)
* Next week's chair (zbyszek, 16:21:48)
* ACTION: contyk will chair next meeting (zbyszek, 16:23:39)
* Open Floor (zbyszek, 16:23:50)
Meeting ended at 16:25:03 UTC.
Action Items
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* contyk will chair next meeting
Action Items, by person
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* contyk
* contyk will chair next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* bookwar (55)
* nirik (49)
* mhroncok (41)
* decathorpe (25)
* dcantrell (24)
* zodbot (15)
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4 years
adamw's meeting titled "Fedora QA Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting
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Notification time stamped 2020-03-30 15:51:57 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-03-30/fedora-qa.202...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 15:00:28)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:05:28)
* "adamw to create and populate F32 Common Bugs page" - this is done:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F32_bugs (adamw, 15:05:54)
* "kparal to write a mail summarizing the validation tests for which
hardware access may be an issue" - this was done, brno rh folks also
retrieved some test hw from the office, so we should be in good
shape (adamw, 15:11:27)
* F32 Final status and plans (adamw, 15:13:28)
* F32 seems pretty on-track for Final, we don't have any major
concerns at present aside from the ongoing question regarding status
and release process for IoT and CoreOS (adamw, 15:20:41)
* Criteria / test case changes and proposals (adamw, 15:20:54)
* 'install to NVMe' test case has been added to Installation Storage
devices matrix (adamw, 15:23:50)
* kparal's proposed changes to desktop matrix -
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Desktop_test_matrix&...
- and release criteria -
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_32_Final_Release_Crite...
- are now in effect (adamw, 15:29:12)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 15:32:39)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-04-02_F32_Upgrade_Test_Day
(sumantro, 15:34:20)
* Cloud test day went off well on 2020-03-20, results will be at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-03-20_Cloud_Testday
shortly (adamw, 15:35:56)
* Upgrade Test Day is coming up on Thursday April 2:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-04-02_F32_Upgrade_Test_Day
(adamw, 15:36:56)
* IoT Test Day will be the following Wednesday, April 8 (adamw,
15:37:24)
* Kernel Test Week will run 2020-04-13 to 2020-04-17 (adamw,
15:37:37)
* an onboarding day should be coming up next week, so new folks can
look out for the announcement of that soon (adamw, 15:38:54)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:45:38)
Meeting ended at 15:51:57 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (82)
* sumantro (20)
* tablepc (16)
* zodbot (13)
* kparal (8)
* cmurf (5)
* lruzicka (3)
* coremodule (3)
* frantisekz (2)
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* bcotton (1)
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