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Editorial board meeting recap 2020-05-13

by Paul Frields

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... * * * ========================================= #fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board ========================================= Meeting started by asamalik at 12:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (asamalik, 12:00:12) * Agenda (asamalik, 12:02:14) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 1/ Last week's stats -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 2/ In progress followup -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 3/ Finished articles to review -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 4/ Articles to edit -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 5/ Publishing schedule -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 7/ Open floor -- (asamalik, 12:02:22) * 1/ Last week's stats (asamalik, 12:02:30) * Week of 4 May: 93.6k pageviews -- not as high as the release week of course, but still comparatively on the higher side (asamalik, 12:02:50) * 2/ In progress followup (asamalik, 12:05:05) * Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (asamalik, 12:05:05) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (asamalik, 12:05:05) * 3/ Finished articles to review (asamalik, 12:11:06) * Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (asamalik, 12:11:06) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (asamalik, 12:11:06) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31061 (asamalik, 12:24:05) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31061 (asamalik, 12:31:52) * ACTION: stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations (stickster, 12:48:54) * ACTION: stickster edit/image #166 for Monday (stickster, 12:49:07) * ACTION: bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday (stickster, 12:53:58) Meeting ended at 12:56:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations * stickster edit/image #166 for Monday * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bcotton * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday * jakfrost * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday * stickster * stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations * stickster edit/image #166 for Monday * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * asamalik (56) * stickster (46) * jakfrost (46) * sysoplab (17) * zodbot (10) * bcotton (8) * sdgathman (2) * rwaltr (1) * misc (0) * cverna (0) * sub_pop (0) * ryanlerch (0) * gregbartholomew (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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asamalik's meeting titled "Magazine editorial board" ended in #fedora-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-13 12:56:09 UTC ========================================= #fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board ========================================= Meeting started by asamalik at 12:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (asamalik, 12:00:12) * Agenda (asamalik, 12:02:14) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 1/ Last week's stats -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 2/ In progress followup -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 3/ Finished articles to review -- (asamalik, 12:02:20) * -- 4/ Articles to edit -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 5/ Publishing schedule -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve -- (asamalik, 12:02:21) * -- 7/ Open floor -- (asamalik, 12:02:22) * 1/ Last week's stats (asamalik, 12:02:30) * Week of 4 May: 93.6k pageviews -- not as high as the release week of course, but still comparatively on the higher side (asamalik, 12:02:50) * 2/ In progress followup (asamalik, 12:05:05) * Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (asamalik, 12:05:05) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (asamalik, 12:05:05) * 3/ Finished articles to review (asamalik, 12:11:06) * Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (asamalik, 12:11:06) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (asamalik, 12:11:06) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31061 (asamalik, 12:24:05) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=31061 (asamalik, 12:31:52) * ACTION: stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations (stickster, 12:48:54) * ACTION: stickster edit/image #166 for Monday (stickster, 12:49:07) * ACTION: bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday (stickster, 12:53:58) Meeting ended at 12:56:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations * stickster edit/image #166 for Monday * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bcotton * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday * jakfrost * bcotton jakfrost Work together on editing approach for Silverblue articles #172 #173 #174 -- and see if we can have something to publish Friday * stickster * stickster to develop a 'before' and 'after' snapshot for #166 to show editors how to deal with more difficult situations * stickster edit/image #166 for Monday * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * asamalik (56) * stickster (46) * jakfrost (46) * sysoplab (17) * zodbot (10) * bcotton (8) * sdgathman (2) * rwaltr (1) * misc (0) * cverna (0) * sub_pop (0) * ryanlerch (0) * gregbartholomew (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-05-13/magazine.2020... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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cmurf's meeting titled "Workstation WG (2020-05-12)" ended in #fedora-meeting-2

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-13 01:38:36 UTC ============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-05-12) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 01:35:58 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-05-13/workstation... . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 01:36:23) * present: cmurf, aday, tpopela, neal, mcatanzaro, jens, mclasen, langdon, owen, ernestas, feborges, james (cmurf, 01:36:25) * regrets: (cmurf, 01:36:27) * missing: kalev (cmurf, 01:36:29) * Approve 5 May minutes (cmurf, 01:36:31) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-05-06/workstation... (cmurf, 01:36:33) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 01:36:35) * Announcements (cmurf, 01:36:37) * F32 retrospective, and appoint chairs for F33 cycle (cmurf, 01:36:43) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/141 (cmurf, 01:36:45) * AGREED: cmurf and aday to chair/co-chair for F33 (cmurf, 01:36:51) * Give ABRT some love (cmurf, 01:36:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 (cmurf, 01:36:55) * Some of the issues in the list aren't easy to fix. There are plans to rearchitect ABRT. (cmurf, 01:37:13) * Asked Ernestas to keep WG informed of progress (cmurf, 01:37:31) * Automatically adding new packages when upgrading (cmurf, 01:37:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/138 (cmurf, 01:37:35) * Related issues #60, #66, #88 (cmurf, 01:37:37) * ACTION: Neal to followup with Daniel Mach to see if there are any developments on the DNF side (cmurf, 01:37:45) * ACTION: Michael to add a recommends for something or other (cmurf, 01:37:47) * Default disk partitioning layout for Workstation (cmurf, 01:37:49) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/54 (cmurf, 01:37:51) * Brief discussion whether to consider Btrfs by default among other options. Ran out of time. No decision. (cmurf, 01:38:13) Meeting ended at 01:38:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Neal to followup with Daniel Mach to see if there are any developments on the DNF side * Michael to add a recommends for something or other Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Neal to followup with Daniel Mach to see if there are any developments on the DNF side * Michael to add a recommends for something or other People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (60) * zodbot (7) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-05-13/workstation... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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nitzmahone's meeting titled "Ansible Windows Working Group" ended in #ansible-windows

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 20:05:50 UTC =============================================== #ansible-windows: Ansible Windows Working Group =============================================== Meeting started by nitzmahone at 19:59:58 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2020-05-12/ansible_wind... . Meeting summary --------------- * open floor (nitzmahone, 20:00:51) Meeting ended at 20:05:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nitzmahone (11) * zodbot (6) * jborean93 (2) * briantist (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2020-05-12/ansible_wind... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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shertel's meeting titled "ansible core public irc meeting" ended in #ansible-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 19:41:50 UTC ================================================= #ansible-meeting: ansible core public irc meeting ================================================= Meeting started by shertel at 19:03:21 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-12/ansible_core... . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/536 (shertel, 19:04:41) * https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/66650#pullrequestreview-346901038 (shertel, 19:07:13) * open floor (shertel, 19:23:21) * AGREED: keep current TRANSFORM_INVALID_GROUP_CHARS default setting, remove deprecation warning, backport deprecation removal; leave "invalid group chars" (non-deprecation) warning in place (cyberpear, 19:38:11) * AGREED: keep current TRANSFORM_INVALID_GROUP_CHARS default setting, remove deprecation warning, backport deprecation removal; leave "invalid group chars" (non-deprecation) warning in place (shertel, 19:39:10) Meeting ended at 19:41:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * shertel (31) * bcoca (29) * felixfontein (23) * cyberpear (16) * sdoran (15) * jborean93 (10) * zodbot (8) * Shrews (1) * tremble (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2020-05-12/ansible_core... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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kevin's meeting titled "Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting" ended in #fedora-admin

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 18:28:48 UTC ============================================================== #fedora-admin: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting ============================================================== Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-admin/2020-05-12/fedora_infrastr... . Meeting summary --------------- * meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (nirik, 18:00:01) * agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (nirik, 18:00:01) * Tickets needing review (nirik, 18:00:02) * https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1 (nirik, 18:00:04) Meeting ended at 18:28:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (47) * mboddu (28) * zodbot (14) * fm-admin (10) * Eighth_Doctor (2) * smooge (1) * cverna (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-admin/2020-05-12/fedora_infrastr... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jcajka's meeting titled "Go SIG meeting" ended in #fedora-golang

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 16:23:43 UTC ============================== #fedora-golang: Go SIG meeting ============================== Meeting started by jcajka at 15:59:40 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-golang/2020-05-12/go_sig_meeting... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (jcajka, 15:59:49) * New slot for the meeting (jcajka, 16:05:57) * Open floor (jcajka, 16:15:42) Meeting ended at 16:23:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jcajka (18) * zodbot (9) * nim (3) * Eighth_Doctor (2) * alexsaezm (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-golang/2020-05-12/go_sig_meeting... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Summary for 2020-05-12

by Mohan Boddu

====================================== #fedora-meeting-3: RELENG (2020-05-12) ====================================== Meeting started by mboddu at 15:32:33 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2020-05-12/releng.2020... . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mboddu, 15:32:34) * Open Floor (mboddu, 15:35:24) * nirik updated/rebooted some buildvmhosts (mboddu, 15:40:49) * #9266 prune EOL content from OSTree repos (mboddu, 15:45:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9266 (mboddu, 15:45:13) * mboddu pinged Dusty in the ticket asking if he is free tomorrow (mboddu, 15:50:37) * #9068 Please delete `epel8` and `epel8-playground` branches for `rpms/buildbot` (mboddu, 15:55:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2387 (mboddu, 15:55:31) Meeting ended at 16:01:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mboddu (23) * nirik (10) * zodbot (8) * siddharthvipul (2) * sharkcz (2) * jednorozec (0) * pbrobinson (0) * dustymabe (0) * pingou (0) * ksinny (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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mohanboddu's meeting titled "RELENG (2020-05-12)" ended in #fedora-meeting-3

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 16:01:50 UTC ====================================== #fedora-meeting-3: RELENG (2020-05-12) ====================================== Meeting started by mboddu at 15:32:33 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2020-05-12/releng.2020... . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mboddu, 15:32:34) * Open Floor (mboddu, 15:35:24) * nirik updated/rebooted some buildvmhosts (mboddu, 15:40:49) * #9266 prune EOL content from OSTree repos (mboddu, 15:45:05) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9266 (mboddu, 15:45:13) * mboddu pinged Dusty in the ticket asking if he is free tomorrow (mboddu, 15:50:37) * #9068 Please delete `epel8` and `epel8-playground` branches for `rpms/buildbot` (mboddu, 15:55:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2387 (mboddu, 15:55:31) Meeting ended at 16:01:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mboddu (23) * nirik (10) * zodbot (8) * siddharthvipul (2) * sharkcz (2) * jednorozec (0) * pbrobinson (0) * dustymabe (0) * pingou (0) * ksinny (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2020-05-12/releng.2020... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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acozine's meeting titled "Docs Working Group aka DaWGs" ended in #ansible-docs

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Notification time stamped 2020-05-12 15:46:38 UTC =========================================== #ansible-docs: Docs Working Group aka DaWGs =========================================== Meeting started by acozine at 14:31:52 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-docs/2020-05-12/docs_working_gr... . Meeting summary --------------- * removing ansible_metadata (acozine, 14:36:11) * collections tracking issue - https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/57 (samccann, 14:36:42) * ansible-base issue - https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69454 (samccann, 14:36:56) * ansible metdata has two fields, neither of which seem necessary in the new world order (samccann, 14:37:27) * AGREED: move status field to an optional documentation section of each module and remove ANSIBLE_METADATA field entirely (samccann, 14:40:44) * AGREED: create a documentation field for status, default is NULL and will not show up in output (docs or Galaxy/AH). Developer set their preferred default in a doc_fragment (preview or stable). (samccann, 14:54:12) * ACTION: - need to test if a module status setting overrides the doc_fragment setting so an individual module could be preview if the doc_frag default is stable for example (samccann, 14:55:49) * whatever we decide, galaxy, AH, docsite, and ansible-doc will have to change... and likely docs pipeline and doc generation changes too (samccann, 15:02:19) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues/68 (felixfontein, 15:13:45) * ACTION: - samccann to comment on https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/57 to drop status entirely and ask for feedback on bcoca proposal (samccann, 15:22:13) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues/68 (samccann, 15:22:42) * AGREED: ANSIBLE_METADATA gets dropped entirely, and no immediate replacement for STATUS (samccann, 15:24:23) * version_added (acozine, 15:25:34) * AGREED: for new features in the module docs, `version_added` should refer to the collection version moving forward (acozine, 15:43:48) Meeting ended at 15:46:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ * - need to test if a module status setting overrides the doc_fragment setting so an individual module could be preview if the doc_frag default is stable for example * - samccann to comment on https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/57 to drop status entirely and ask for feedback on bcoca proposal Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bcoca * - samccann to comment on https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/57 to drop status entirely and ask for feedback on bcoca proposal * samccann * - samccann to comment on https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/57 to drop status entirely and ask for feedback on bcoca proposal * **UNASSIGNED** * - need to test if a module status setting overrides the doc_fragment setting so an individual module could be preview if the doc_frag default is stable for example People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * acozine (111) * felixfontein (86) * samccann (75) * bcoca (34) * abadger1999 (21) * gundalow (10) * zodbot (8) * cbudz (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-docs/2020-05-12/docs_working_gr... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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