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bcotton's meeting titled "FPgM office hours" ended in #fedora-meeting-1

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-12 13:56:36 UTC ==================================== #fedora-meeting-1: FPgM office hours ==================================== Meeting started by bcotton at 13:00:48 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fpgm_office... . Meeting summary --------------- * This is an open floor meeting to discuss anything program management related (elections, changes, schedule, etc) (bcotton, 13:01:29) * Announcements (bcotton, 13:01:36) * The Fedora Social Hour is tomorrow: https://element.io/app/#/room/#fedora-social-hour:matrix.org (bcotton, 13:01:43) * The Code complete (testable) checkpoint has passed. All change tracker bugs should be in MODIFIED or ON_QA state (bcotton, 13:01:44) * LINK: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html (bcotton, 13:01:45) * The Beta Freeze begins 25 August (bcotton, 13:02:09) * open floor (bcotton, 13:02:13) Meeting ended at 13:56:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (9) * zodbot (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-12/fpgm_office... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jakfrost's meeting titled "Magazine editorial board" ended in #fedora-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-12 13:02:26 UTC ========================================= #fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board ========================================= Meeting started by jakfrost at 12:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-08-12/magazine.2020... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (jakfrost, 12:01:12) * Agenda (jakfrost, 12:02:45) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ (jakfrost, 12:02:45) * -- 1/ Last week's stats -- (jakfrost, 12:02:45) * -- 2/ In progress followup -- (jakfrost, 12:02:45) * -- 3/ Finished articles to review -- (jakfrost, 12:02:45) * -- 4/ Articles to edit -- (jakfrost, 12:02:46) * -- 5/ Publishing schedule -- (jakfrost, 12:02:48) * -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve -- (jakfrost, 12:02:50) * -- 7/ Editor of the Week -- (jakfrost, 12:02:52) * -- 8/ Open floor -- (jakfrost, 12:02:54) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ (jakfrost, 12:03:05) * -- 1/ Last week's stats -- (jakfrost, 12:03:05) * -- 2/ In progress followup -- (jakfrost, 12:03:05) * -- 3/ Finished articles to review -- (jakfrost, 12:03:05) * -- 4/ Articles to edit -- (jakfrost, 12:03:05) * -- 5/ Publishing schedule -- (jakfrost, 12:03:06) * -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve -- (jakfrost, 12:03:08) * -- 7/ Editor of the Week -- (jakfrost, 12:03:10) * -- 8/ Open floor -- (jakfrost, 12:03:12) * 1/ Last week's stats (jakfrost, 12:03:22) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats (jakfrost, 12:03:39) * 2/ In progress followup (jakfrost, 12:06:59) * Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (jakfrost, 12:06:59) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (jakfrost, 12:06:59) * 3/ Finished articles to review (jakfrost, 12:24:22) * Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (jakfrost, 12:24:22) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (jakfrost, 12:24:22) * 4/ Articles to edit (jakfrost, 12:29:11) * Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. (jakfrost, 12:29:11) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (jakfrost, 12:29:11) * 5/ Publishing schedule (jakfrost, 12:31:13) * Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period. (jakfrost, 12:31:13) * If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content. (jakfrost, 12:31:13) * LINK: Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban (jakfrost, 12:31:13) * 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve (jakfrost, 12:55:05) * Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion? (jakfrost, 12:55:05) * LINK: Article proposals in our forum: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/Discussion-related-to-Fedo... (jakfrost, 12:55:05) * 7/ Editor of the Week (jakfrost, 13:00:00) * XXXX will be Editor of the Week next week (jakfrost, 13:00:00) Meeting ended at 13:02:26 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jakfrost (111) * asamalik (42) * stickster (26) * zodbot (11) * sdgathman (4) * bcotton (1) * misc (0) * cverna (0) * sub_pop (0) * rwaltr (0) * ryanlerch (0) * gregbartholomew (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-08-12/magazine.2020... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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chrismurphy's meeting titled "Workstation WG (2020-08-11)" ended in #fedora-meeting-2

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-12 03:46:34 UTC ============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-08-11) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 03:44:48 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-08-12/workstation... . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 03:45:06) * present wg members: cmurf, tpopela, mclasen, Neal, jens, langdon, mcatanzaro, owen (cmurf, 03:45:08) * regrets wg members: aday kalev (cmurf, 03:45:10) * present guests: feborges, james (cmurf, 03:45:12) * Approve August 04 minutes (cmurf, 03:45:14) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-08-0... (cmurf, 03:45:16) * AGREED: No objections - approved (cmurf, 03:45:18) * Announcements (cmurf, 03:45:20) * F33 branchpoint is today (cmurf, 03:45:22) * Work on gnome-disks is proceeding (cmurf, 03:45:24) * Many FTBFS bugs against various desktop packages. python changes and cmake changes. (cmurf, 03:45:26) * Welcome video for GNOME Tour (cmurf, 03:45:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/175 (cmurf, 03:45:36) * AGREED: This seems to be on the right track. (cmurf, 03:45:40) * Remove Photos and Rhythmbox from default apps (cmurf, 03:45:42) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 (cmurf, 03:45:44) * Some questions about Videos being the default music player. Upstream is OK with this. (cmurf, 03:45:52) * AGREED: Continue discussion next week when Allan is present. (cmurf, 03:46:00) * btrfs Fedora Magazine article (cmurf, 03:46:02) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/162 (cmurf, 03:46:04) * ACTION: Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. (cmurf, 03:46:16) Meeting ended at 03:46:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Langdon to attempt a rewrite of the article, working with Chris. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (40) * zodbot (7) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-08-12/workstation... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jborean93's meeting titled "Ansible Windows Working Gorup" ended in #ansible-windows

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-11 20:24:04 UTC =============================================== #ansible-windows: Ansible Windows Working Gorup =============================================== Meeting started by jborean93 at 20:01:59 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2020-08-11/ansible_wind... . Meeting summary --------------- Meeting ended at 20:24:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jborean93 (21) * jhawkesworth (16) * briantist (12) * zodbot (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-windows/2020-08-11/ansible_wind... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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kevin's meeting titled "Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting" ended in #fedora-admin

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-11 18:21:17 UTC ============================================================== #fedora-admin: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting ============================================================== Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-admin/2020-08-11/fedora_infrastr... . Meeting summary --------------- * meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (nirik, 18:00:13) * agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (nirik, 18:00:13) * Tickets needing review (nirik, 18:00:15) * https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1 (nirik, 18:00:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/boards/ops (nirik, 18:10:32) * nirik out on PTO next week - please catch me this week if you need me for something. (nirik, 18:18:12) * new 'dev' board being populated in pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure (nirik, 18:18:34) Meeting ended at 18:21:17 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (30) * zodbot (9) * smooge (6) * fm-admin (6) * mobrien (4) * mboddu (1) * pingou (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-admin/2020-08-11/fedora_infrastr... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jwf|mozilla's meeting titled "Fedora i3 SIG - 2020-08-11" ended in #fedora-i3

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-11 17:19:09 UTC ====================================== #fedora-i3: Fedora i3 SIG - 2020-08-11 ====================================== Meeting started by jwf|mozilla at 16:03:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-08-11/i3.2020-08-11-16.0... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (jwf|mozilla, 16:03:49) * Agenda (nasirhm, 16:05:50) * (1) Announcements (nasirhm, 16:06:10) * (2) Assessment on the Workstation ks file to look for linux related changes. (nasirhm, 16:07:27) * (3) Follow up on bcotton's response for the Spin proposal ( (nasirhm, 16:07:40) * LINK: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/11) (nasirhm, 16:07:40) * (4) Our Docs needs some love: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/docs (nasirhm, 16:07:53) * (5) Goals for the next respin to move forward with the proposal (nasirhm, 16:08:04) * (6) Any package ideas for the next respin (nasirhm, 16:08:22) * (7) Open Floor (nasirhm, 16:08:32) * Announcements (nasirhm, 16:08:41) * i3-4.18.2-1.fc32 Pushed to stable, show your love to defolos with some cookies :D (nasirhm, 16:10:15) * Our Docs are up now, thanks to jwf and pbokoc. (nasirhm, 16:11:16) * (2) Assessment on the Workstation ks file to look for linux related changes. (nasirhm, 16:14:20) * ACTION: nasirhm to go through the workstation ks file to find changes and discuss them in next week's meeting. (nasirhm, 16:22:18) * (3) Follow up on bcotton's response for the Spin proposal (nasirhm, 16:23:14) * LINK: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/11 (nasirhm, 16:23:26) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Process (nasirhm, 16:26:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Guidelines (nasirhm, 16:26:27) * (4) Our Docs needs some love. (nasirhm, 16:29:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/docs (nasirhm, 16:29:52) * ACTION: nasirhm to add to the meeting template to the i3wm docs. (nasirhm, 16:31:58) * (5) Goals for the next respin to move forward with the proposal (nasirhm, 16:32:21) * AGREED: addition of azote in i3 ks (nasirhm, 16:52:47) * (6) Any package ideas for the next respin (nasirhm, 16:58:43) * (7) Open Floor (nasirhm, 16:59:08) * ACTION: defolos will be working with QA to initialize OpenQA tests for the i3 spin. (nasirhm, 17:06:09) * LINK: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zNurY_YOvJkCeCrL593PcjBxa4OKKSFl (x3mboy[m], 17:10:18) Meeting ended at 17:19:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nasirhm to go through the workstation ks file to find changes and discuss them in next week's meeting. * nasirhm to add to the meeting template to the i3wm docs. * defolos will be working with QA to initialize OpenQA tests for the i3 spin. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * defolos * defolos will be working with QA to initialize OpenQA tests for the i3 spin. * nasirhm * nasirhm to go through the workstation ks file to find changes and discuss them in next week's meeting. * nasirhm to add to the meeting template to the i3wm docs. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nasirhm (88) * x3mboy[m] (47) * defolos (35) * jwf|mozilla (17) * zodbot (13) * jwf (9) * fedi3bridgerbot (3) * x3mboy (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-08-11/i3.2020-08-11-16.0... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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acozine's meeting titled "Docs Working Group aka DaWGs" ended in #ansible-docs

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-11 15:53:34 UTC =========================================== #ansible-docs: Docs Working Group aka DaWGs =========================================== Meeting started by acozine at 14:34:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-docs/2020-08-11/docs_working_gr... . Meeting summary --------------- * opening chatter (acozine, 14:34:17) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/521#issuecomment-668744313 (acozine, 14:39:21) * Update on latest url (samccann, 14:41:16) * ansible-base 2.10 release happening soon. We'll have changelogs and porting guides for that (samccann, 14:43:43) * we will update the `latest` symlink for the docs only after ansible 2.10 is released (acozine, 14:43:47) * but we won't switch the version switcher to include 2.10, or change the pages that /latest/ refers to until Ansible releases later (samccann, 14:43:54) * Thursday's release of ansible-base should not change the /latest/ url to 2.10 (it should stay 2.9) - if you see problems, please let us know here in irc (samccann, 14:52:30) * FQCN changes and PR 70530 (acozine, 14:52:59) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/70530 (felixfontein, 14:53:26) * PR is ready to merge (samccann, 14:56:21) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/71194 humm IBM style guide (baptistemm, 15:03:57) * release and maintenance page (acozine, 15:05:52) * LINK: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/reference_appendices/release_and_... (acozine, 15:06:24) * AGREED: - separate ansible-base from Ansible on the release-maintenance page, preferably before Thurs (samccann, 15:11:48) * ACTION: samccann to ask tower folks how they ensured people always looked at the newest version of that release page (samccann, 15:13:11) * ACTION: samccann to create a quick PR to make the release/maintenance page have separate sections for ansible-base vs ansible (samccann, 15:14:21) * updates on porting guide, changelogs, and pipeline (acozine, 15:17:09) * some collections are converting their changelogs to use our tool. We have one request so far for a direct link to a collections changelog due to format requirements unique to that community. (samccann, 15:21:09) * pipeline redirects work starting. We will open an issue 'someplace logical' to explain the strategy of the redirects (samccann, 15:21:51) * this would redirect someone who had a bookmark to /latest/some-module so it goes to /latest/collections/blabla/some-module... and the reverse.. so to speak. See issue when it is created for more details (samccann, 15:22:45) * ACTION: samccann to create a tracking issue for the redirects (samccann, 15:23:03) * priority issues for 2.10 docs (acozine, 15:25:17) * check https://github.com/ansible/ansible/projects/27#column-2809177 for list of priority items we are tracking for Ansible 2.10 release. Let us know if you see something else we need to track (samccann, 15:30:51) * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/59226 is it still accurate ? (baptistemm, 15:31:06) * the Great Issue and PR Autoclose (acozine, 15:33:01) * check your PRs and issues to see if you have any old ones you want to move (acozine, 15:36:24) * use the needs_collection_redirect label to find them (samccann, 15:36:47) * or bot_closed to see what was automatically closed after the bot runs (samccann, 15:37:38) * the bot is starting to work on closing old issues and PRs today (acozine, 15:37:44) * General Status updates (samccann, 15:41:41) * work still going to get the docs to say collections/FQCN where needed. Volunteers most welcome to help out! (samccann, 15:42:13) * Open Floor (samccann, 15:50:00) * Friday of this week is a red hat "recharge day". Most red hat employees will have the day off. (abadger1999, 15:53:05) Meeting ended at 15:53:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ * samccann to ask tower folks how they ensured people always looked at the newest version of that release page * samccann to create a quick PR to make the release/maintenance page have separate sections for ansible-base vs ansible * samccann to create a tracking issue for the redirects Action Items, by person ----------------------- * samccann * samccann to ask tower folks how they ensured people always looked at the newest version of that release page * samccann to create a quick PR to make the release/maintenance page have separate sections for ansible-base vs ansible * samccann to create a tracking issue for the redirects * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * acozine (94) * samccann (84) * felixfontein (33) * baptistemm (25) * zodbot (13) * abadger1999 (9) * andersson007_ (6) * gundalow (6) * cyberpear (2) * Shrews (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-docs/2020-08-11/docs_working_gr... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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Renault's meeting titled "Fedora-fr" ended in #fedora-meeting-1

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-10 18:52:22 UTC ============================ #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr ============================ Meeting started by Renault at 18:32:53 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-10/fedora-fr.2... . Meeting summary --------------- * Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:33:13) * Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 18:34:02) * Marketing (Renault, 18:37:22) * Documentation (Renault, 18:38:43) * Traduction (Renault, 18:42:46) * Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:44:35) * demain séparation de F33 et Rawhide (Renault, 18:44:59) * Discussions Libres (Renault, 18:45:51) * ACTION: renault adapter https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Apprendre_%C3%A0_rapporter_un_bogue avec BugZilla 5 (Renault, 18:49:11) Meeting ended at 18:52:22 UTC. Action Items ------------ * renault adapter https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Apprendre_%C3%A0_rapporter_un_bogue avec BugZilla 5 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * renault adapter https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Apprendre_%C3%A0_rapporter_un_bogue avec BugZilla 5 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Renault (52) * Nicosss (22) * zodbot (11) * eseyman (3) * misc (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-08-10/fedora-fr.2... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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adamwill's meeting titled "Fedora QA Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-10 18:24:16 UTC ================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:02:03 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-08-10/fedora-qa.202... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 15:02:07) * Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:08:00) * no action items from last meeting (adamw, 15:08:13) * Fedora 33 status (adamw, 15:13:19) * Fedora 33 is mostly working (adamw, 15:20:51) * FreeIPA is known broken due to Java 11 migration, team is working on it (adamw, 15:21:02) * btrfs-by-default is working out well so far, they may consider enabling compression as part of 33 cycle, we would prefer before Beta freeze if so (adamw, 15:21:36) * Criteria proposal: login/out (adamw, 15:30:17) * AGREED: we're still discussing the best layout/wording to add the requirement, but there's strong agreement in principle that we ought to block on logging in as user B after logging out as user A (adamw, 15:46:49) * Test Day / community event status (adamw, 15:47:00) * a kernel 5.8 test week is being arranged: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/637 (adamw, 15:47:31) * a second btrfs-by-default test day is also in the works: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/634 (adamw, 15:47:56) * Open floor (adamw, 15:49:20) Meeting ended at 18:24:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (134) * cmurf (43) * lruzicka2 (25) * kparal (20) * defolos (20) * zodbot (12) * michel_slm (7) * tablepc (7) * pjones (5) * tflink (5) * Southern_Gentlem (4) * bcotton (4) * coremodule (4) * pwhalen (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-08-10/fedora-qa.202... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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adamwill's meeting titled "F33-blocker-review" ended in #fedora-blocker-review

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Notification time stamped 2020-08-10 17:20:39 UTC ========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F33-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:17:31 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2020-08-10/f33-bl... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:17:31) * LINK: https://images.app.goo.gl/mCnbdKfXwLqAJEvg7 (cmurf, 16:18:12) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:21:35) * Introduction (adamw, 16:21:49) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:21:49) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:21:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:21:51) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:21:51) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:21:53) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:21:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:21:57) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:21:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:22:01) * for Beta, we have: (adamw, 16:22:10) * 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:22:10) * 2 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:22:10) * 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:22:14) * for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:22:18) * 1 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:22:28) * Proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:23:40) * (1830343) Network manager started stuck when I tries connecting to VPN (openconnect) after upgrade gnome-shell to 3.37.1-1.fc33 version (adamw, 16:23:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830343 (adamw, 16:23:48) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:23:48) * ACTION: adamw to send out testing call for #1830343 (adamw, 16:28:12) * AGREED: 1830343 - punt (delay decision) - we still didn't get any further info on this yet, so need to punt again. we will send out a call for testing to try and get more info (adamw, 16:36:15) * (1866570) FreeIPA deployment fails in current Rawhide due to various issues with Java 11 (adamw, 16:36:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1866570 (adamw, 16:36:25) * Proposed Blocker, resteasy, NEW (adamw, 16:36:25) * AGREED: 1866570 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of Basic criterion "It must be possible to configure a Fedora Server system installed according to the above criteria as a FreeIPA domain controller, using the official deployment tools provided in the distribution FreeIPA packages..." (adamw, 16:40:09) * (1861700) login stuck when changing users repeatedly (log out, log in a different one) (adamw, 16:41:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861700 (adamw, 16:41:55) * Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 16:41:55) * we agreed in the QA meeting today that we will accept one of the proposed criteria relating to this, or a similar one which still requires "log out as A, log in as B" to work (adamw, 16:46:42) * we can treat this bug as violating that to-be-accepted criterion (adamw, 16:46:59) * AGREED: 1861700 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of the in-progress but accepted-in-principle logout criterion, see thread https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.or... (adamw, 16:49:28) * (1862686) SELinux is preventing systemd-machine from 'create' accesses on the sock_file io.systemd.Machine. (adamw, 16:49:42) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1862686 (adamw, 16:49:42) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, NEW (adamw, 16:49:43) * AGREED: 1862686 - punt (delay decision) for Beta, AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is a pretty clear violation of Final criterion "All system services present after installation with one of the release-blocking package sets must start properly...", so we accept it as at least a Final blocker. we're less sure about whether it breaks virtualization, so we will delay the decision on Beta blocker status to look into that some more (adamw, 16:57:40) * Accepted Beta blocker review (adamw, 16:59:37) * (1860616) abrt-server errors when processing zstd compressed core dumps produced by systemd-246~rc1-1.fc33 (adamw, 17:00:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1860616 (adamw, 17:00:11) * Accepted Blocker, libreport, NEW (adamw, 17:00:11) * a PR that's alleged to help with this is merged upstream, but there has been no new release or backport (adamw, 17:01:33) * ACTION: adamw to ping team to backport patch or cut a new release, do it himself if necessary (adamw, 17:02:00) * (1857043) FreeIPA server deployment fails in Fedora-Rawhide-20200714.n.0 due to pki-tomcat failing to run with "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.tomcat.util.modeler.modules.MbeansDescriptorsIntrospectionSource" (adamw, 17:04:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1857043 (adamw, 17:04:10) * Accepted Blocker, tomcat, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:04:10) * we think this is probably fixed, but it's hard to tell for sure due to the Java 11 changes complicating things (adamw, 17:04:24) * we'll continue to monitor it as part of the broader Make FreeIPA Work Again...thing (adamw, 17:04:46) * Open floor (adamw, 17:08:00) * (1862686) SELinux is preventing systemd-machine from 'create' accesses on the sock_file io.systemd.Machine. (adamw, 17:09:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1862686 (adamw, 17:09:05) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, NEW (adamw, 17:09:05) * circling back to this as cmurf says he can reproduce the 'VM won't run' element (adamw, 17:09:19) * AGREED: 1862686 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the same release", since both adamw and cmurf have reported being unable to launch VMs with SELinux in enforcing mode. this overrides earlier acceptance as a Final blocker (adamw, 17:16:41) * Open floor (adamw, 17:17:01) Meeting ended at 17:20:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to send out testing call for #1830343 * adamw to ping team to backport patch or cut a new release, do it himself if necessary Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to send out testing call for #1830343 * adamw to ping team to backport patch or cut a new release, do it himself if necessary * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (157) * cmurf (44) * michel_slm (30) * zodbot (22) * lruzicka2 (16) * coremodule (16) * kparal (11) * bcotton (8) * pwhalen (4) * tablepc (2) * mclasen (2) * Southern_Gentlem (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2020-08-10/f33-bl... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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