Time for another bumper meeting recap. I should stop sucking and do less of these! As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121008 , https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121015 and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121022 . Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-10-29 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121029 . Thanks! 2012-10-08 ---------- TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * "adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced) re-use of /home for Beta" - not done yet, sorry * "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion" - not done yet * "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel should be dialled down" - not done yet TOPIC: Release criteria proposals ======================================================================= * Proposed changes to the upgrade criteria for Beta and Final were accepted (see log for exact text) TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review ======================================================================= * Agreed that we recommended slipping of freeze due to no currently testable upgrade tool for F18 * Outside of the upgrade tool, install w/ RAID and/or LUKS was another potential issue that needs re-testing TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion * tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel should be dialled down 2012-10-15 ---------- TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion" - Adam still didn't get enough round tuits, sorry * "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel should be dialled down" - Tim posted a thread that got some responses but it went down a detour, we will try again TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review ======================================================================= * F18 Beta TC4 landed Saturday, comes with a regression in NetworkManager[1] * New upgrade tool is still not testable so far as we know * We agreed that as new upgrade tool is still not complete, QA does not recommend freezing for Beta at this time * See wiki page for results of mini blocker review TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * tflink try again with asking other teams to review the updated release criteria * adamw to update fesco freeze ticket 2012-10-22 ---------- TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * "tflink try again with asking other teams to review the updated release criteria" - tim forgot about this, he'll do it now * "adamw to update fesco freeze ticket" - this was done[2] TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta status / mini blocker review ======================================================================= * The new upgrade tool was still not ready, Will says he will have it ready this week if all goes well * Agreed that QA still could not recommend freezing for Beta as new upgrade tool is still not available for testing: we would pass this recommendation to FESCo but recognize FESCo may go against the recommendation due to time pressures * TC6 seemed a decent build, we would continue with the validation testing * See wiki page for results of mini blocker review TOPIC: Release criteria / test cases ======================================================================= * Adam was still working on the partitioning criteria, general agreement at the meeting that requirements for custom partitioning should not be heavy at beta time * Many test cases still needed revising for newui, if you feel like helping out, please do TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to report recommendation to fesco ticket 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=866434 2. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/946#comment:14 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net