So instead of flooding the lists, here's a Bumper Recap of the last three QA meetings, as I didn't get around to doing them at the time. As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120827 , https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120910 and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120917 . The 09-03 meeting did not happen due to holidays. Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-09-24 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120924 . Thanks! 2012-08-27 ---------- TOPIC: Incomplete anaconda functionality for Fedora 18 ======================================================================= * Group discussed the issues raised in the ticket[1] and agreed on three recommendations to be submitted to the ticket on behalf of the QA team: 1. We consider it unlikely Alpha will be releasable by the time of go/no-go on Aug 29/30. 2. We don't believe that reverting to oldUI is a great idea. 3. We are generally of the opinion that a planned slip longer than 2 weeks should be accompanied by a period where the release freeze is lifted. TOPIC: Fedora 18 general status check / mini blocker review ======================================================================= * See wiki page for results of mini blocker review TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to float proposed recommendation #4 on the mailing list and add it to the ticket if it gets sufficient support 2012-09-10 ---------- TOPIC: Fedora 18 general status check / mini blocker review ======================================================================= * TC6 was out, very close to doing an RC1 but needed a new anaconda build * See wiki page for results of mini blocker review TOPIC: Release criteria revision ======================================================================= * Topic was tabled due to time taken by the NTH/blocker review TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * tflink to build test image w/ new lorax to test #855289 2012-09-17 ---------- TOPIC: Fedora 18 Alpha wind-up / Beta preparation ======================================================================= * We needed to write up the common bugs page and lobby for inclusion of major issues in the release announcement * Post-Alpha stable updates push had not yet happened due to issues with the signing server * Nightly images should start showing up after the first stable push * We agreed to build smoketest images frequently before the first TC date * tflink proposed having freeze entrance criteria that must be satisfied before the freeze starts, to avoid overlong freeze periods TOPIC: Release criteria revision ======================================================================= * We agreed to drop the 'uncategorized package groups' criterion * We agreed kparal was going in the right direction on the 'default package set' criterion revision, further refinement to occur on-list * We were broadly happy with the very minimal partitioning requirements used for F18 Alpha, though we may wish to require installation into free space to work in future * We agreed in general that Beta and Final partitioning requirements should be much tighter, but it was hard to decide on specifics without seeing more details of the planned newUI design TOPIC: Naming of TCs/RCs ======================================================================= * Topic tabled due to time taken by previous topics TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to find out who's writing the release announcement and make sure it calls out the biggest Alpha bugs * tflink to draft up a freeze entrance requirements proposal for the list and we can take the idea from there * pschindl to kill 'uncategorized package groups' criterion * kparal to refine 'release-blocking package sets' criterion * adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/941 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net