Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 07:01 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the
"new trademark
>>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in
case you
>>>>> hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built
it
>>>>> upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your
session
>>>>> (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same
>>>>> might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like
VMWare
>>>>> used to distribute .vmx files for some operating
systems/distributions?)
>>>>>
>>>> This part I'm not so sure of. "Limited distribution" in an
age of
>>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot. Rather, we should
be
>>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation easy
>>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>>
>>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right
>>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that
>>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, to
>>> rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. Replacing
>>> fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go to other
>>> distributions to use or derive from.
>> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
>> case. The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
>> outside of what we call Fedora. Including presentation or demo material
>> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image. I would
think
>> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
>> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
>> external space. This is just a preliminary thought.
>
> We give them the powser to build any packages into the live-usb and
> appliances. So I would sugest that any trademark solution address the
> idea that friends of ferdora will be build these and we want them to say
> "I built this on Fedora" but not "This is fedora"
That's exactly what the "Fedora Upstream"-type marking and the new
guidelines are intended to do.
If you move them to "Unregulated" then I am happy with it!
-- bk