spins August 2010

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MIA spins
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Despite a posting to the lists earlier in the month[1] to check our spin content, apparently no one caught the fact that there was no Moblin spin among the release candidates. At this point, we're going to have to wait for mirrors to die down before we can consider shipping a late copy. I went to the Spins process page[2] to see where things might have gone off track, and found that the page stated that after acceptance the following step occurs: "Spin added to a wiki page containing a table listing all of the spins for Fedora X (very similar to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList)" Note that no one is responsible or accountable for it happening according to the spin page, nor is the proper page listed. I made a change, so now the step reads: "The Spins Wrangler adds the Spin to a wiki page containing a table listing all of the spins for Fedora 14 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/Spins)" This change is not a decree by any means, but it seemed like the most effective way to ensure entries get made. I can't help but think we would have caught this problem if there were regular Spins meetings, or at least schedule items that indicate the SIG should carry out a task like checking the list of Spins before RC phase. Earlier, I brought up the idea of entering a set of schedule items. Ideally, someone on the SIG will step up to gather that list of dates for Fedora 14, and talk to John Poelstra to make sure the dates get on the release schedule. I'd also like to make sure we have a clear spins wrangler who knows the responsibilities that come with that role. That person should check over the spins process page[2] and find any places where it's not clear what the task is, and who is responsible for doing it. So -- who wants to gather the schedule and report it to John Poelstra by around June 1? Who is the current spins wrangler, and can that person go over the page by around the same time, and bring questions to the list? * * * [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2010-May/001131.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Process -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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spin kickstart/minimization cleanups
by Peter Robinson 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

Hi All, Firstly sorry for the cross post, I think its some what relevant for both. I started this discussion in the F-13 timeframe but it was too late in the cycle and was considered to risky, leading up to the beta it might be a little close too. Looking through the various kickstart files in the git repo while looking at a couple of issues that I'm seeing on my own spins I have a couple of queries. Firstly in fedora-live-minimization.ks and fedora-livecd-desktop.ks there's a whole lot of removal of packages. This is basically what i do in the fedora-live-mini.ks and I think things like @printing can (and should be) removed from base so that other kick starts don't have to explicitly remove everything that it adds in. Its easy enough for the people that want printing to add the one liner into their own kickstart. There's also a comment in the fedora-live-minimization.ks about removing them from comps for F-14. Is there a reason this hasn't happened? I was also suprised to see things like "printing" related things in the base-x group in comps. It looks like someone had this on their todo list, is it still there? Ultimately I would like to get rid of the fedora-live-mini.ks file and use the mainline base. I believe that base should be exactly that... the base/core packages and all the useful scripting. Then possibly have a base-desktop which adds all the core X stuff that any desktop spin would need (plus associated related scripts that all could make use of like X auto login). From there a desktop based spin would just need to pull in the base-desktop.ks to get all the core stuff to get to a minimal X. Thoughts? Peter

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[spin-kickstarts] mini: some minor fixes and cleanups
by Peter Robinson 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

commit 6b46a15fd30e1dd6a1925d530632964d504482c0 Author: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue Aug 31 22:31:42 2010 +0100 mini: some minor fixes and cleanups fedora-live-mini.ks | 10 ++++++---- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-live-mini.ks b/fedora-live-mini.ks index 7272bdb..550cba5 100644 --- a/fedora-live-mini.ks +++ b/fedora-live-mini.ks @@ -91,11 +91,9 @@ pulseaudio-utils -system-config-users # Remove default unwanted hardware firmware and support we don't want --b43-fwcutter -foomatic* -ghostscript* -ivtv-firmware --printer-filters -ql2100-firmware -ql2200-firmware -ql23xx-firmware @@ -122,9 +120,10 @@ gnupg2 yum-presto avahi -# Remove sendmail, replace with smaller smtp equiv +# Remove sendmail: this needs to be explicit -sendmail -ssmtp +# But hopefully there shouldn't be deps so this shouldn't need to be there +#ssmtp %end @@ -254,6 +253,9 @@ passwd -d liveuser > /dev/null # turn off firstboot for livecd boots chkconfig --level 345 firstboot off 2>/dev/null +# The above doesn't works so we need to do this... GRR systemctl +echo "RUN_FIRSTBOOT=NO" > /etc/sysconfig/firstboot + # don't start yum-updatesd for livecd boots chkconfig --level 345 yum-updatesd off 2>/dev/null

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Re: [Fedora-spins] Images in Koji
by Jay Greguske 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

----- "Jesse Keating" <jkeating(a)j2solutions.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/31/10 1:50 PM, Jay Greguske wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Upstream Koji has code to build LiveCDs and appliances (read: disk) > > images, and I was wondering whether there is any interest from this > > group to leverage it? > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/KojiLiveCDHowTo > > > > A small set of users could be granted privileges to build LiveCDs > and > > appliances in Koji. This way you'd have a central place to build > > images consistently in a more "official" capacity (I hope that > didn't > > come off as condescending), complete with a record of what was > > installed into the image. The Koji commands in a recent client look > > like this: > > > > koji spin-livecd [options] target arch kickstart-file koji > > spin-appliance [options] target arch kickstart-file > > > > You basically feed it a kickstart file, and it will produce an .iso > > or disk image. (.raw, .qcow, etc) If this sparks an interest from > you > > folks I can put together a more complete proposal in a wiki > somewhere > > and be more formal about it. I just wanted to check whether there > was > > interest at all, or if everyone is happy with the current process. > > > > Thanks, - Jay > I'd certainly like to see some testing of this in our koji > environment. > Certainly, I didn't mean to imply everything was perfectly ready. :) Part of the process transition would involve testing before hand, and that would be called out in the proposal for sure. > - -- > Jesse Keating > Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! > identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkx9bYUACgkQ4v2HLvE71NXzogCcCgCf7T2RbjSYuG/D4vOGzeEW > a1MAnjnNUUc0Q0k1fMUSVyxkQThyx/al > =ito9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > spins mailing list > spins(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/spins

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Images in Koji
by Jay Greguske 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Hello, Upstream Koji has code to build LiveCDs and appliances (read: disk) images, and I was wondering whether there is any interest from this group to leverage it? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/KojiLiveCDHowTo A small set of users could be granted privileges to build LiveCDs and appliances in Koji. This way you'd have a central place to build images consistently in a more "official" capacity (I hope that didn't come off as condescending), complete with a record of what was installed into the image. The Koji commands in a recent client look like this: koji spin-livecd [options] target arch kickstart-file koji spin-appliance [options] target arch kickstart-file You basically feed it a kickstart file, and it will produce an .iso or disk image. (.raw, .qcow, etc) If this sparks an interest from you folks I can put together a more complete proposal in a wiki somewhere and be more formal about it. I just wanted to check whether there was interest at all, or if everyone is happy with the current process. Thanks, - Jay

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Two meego bugs reported, 628921 and 628926
by Bruno Wolff III 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

628926 is a build problem with rawhide, that should probably be filed against whatever is causing the dependency conflict. 628921 is a problem with the nightly build iso. Might be systemd, might be something else. Someone will need to look at it to see if they have the same issue dan does. It also would be worth testing some other spins again to see if they are OK or if it is meego specific.

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[spin-kickstarts] #44: Build a new release for beta.
by fedora-badges 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

#44: Build a new release for beta. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: bruno | Owner: bruno Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 12 Beta Component: kickstart pool | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Since there have been changes to the kickstart files since the alpha, we'll want to do a new release for beta. Target is September 7th. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/ticket/44> spin-kickstarts <https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/> Kickstarts that the Spin SIG reviews, tests, maintains and releases (as a package).

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[spin-kickstarts] #43: Implement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_repo_directives
by fedora-badges 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

#43: Implement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_repo_directives ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: bruno | Owner: kanarip Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 12 Alpha Component: kickstart pool | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Make sure that the repo directives are consistent and the correct state for this point in the release process. (Currently fedora and updates should be active and rawhide should be commented out.) -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/ticket/43> spin-kickstarts <https://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts/> Kickstarts that the Spin SIG reviews, tests, maintains and releases (as a package).

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[spin-kickstarts] Update repo definitions
by Bruno Wolff III 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

commit ccbd53091df8fbe8c7a6472778dea99cdc565d13 Author: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> Date: Mon Aug 30 21:58:46 2010 -0500 Update repo definitions At this point in the release cycle the fedora and updates repos should be enabled. The ks files for live spins that define these should be consistent with each other. fedora-aos.ks | 15 ++++----------- fedora-live-base.ks | 14 ++++---------- fedora-live-mini.ks | 14 ++++---------- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/fedora-aos.ks b/fedora-aos.ks index ff0ee42..c6a913d 100644 --- a/fedora-aos.ks +++ b/fedora-aos.ks @@ -26,17 +26,10 @@ part / --size 550 --fstype ext3 --ondisk sda # # Repositories # -# To compose against the current release tree, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=released --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10&arch=$basearch -# To include updates, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f10&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against rawhide, use the following "repo" (disabled by default) -repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against local trees, (edit and) use: -#repo --name=f10 --baseurl=http://localrepo/fedora/releases/10/Everything/$basearch/os/ -#repo --name=f10-updates --baseurl=http://localrepo/fedora/updates/10/$basearch/ +#repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch +repo --name=fedora --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch +repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch +#repo --name=updates-testing --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-testing-f$releasever&arch=$basearch # # Add all the packages after the base packages diff --git a/fedora-live-base.ks b/fedora-live-base.ks index f911f9d..7e0d557 100644 --- a/fedora-live-base.ks +++ b/fedora-live-base.ks @@ -17,16 +17,10 @@ xconfig --startxonboot part / --size 3072 --fstype ext4 services --enabled=NetworkManager --disabled=network,sshd -# To compose against the current release tree, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=released --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-13&arch=$basearch -# To include updates, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f13&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against rawhide, use the following "repo" (disabled by default) -repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against local trees, (edit and) use: -#repo --name=f11 --baseurl=http://localrepo/fedora/releases/11/Everything/$basearch/os/ +#repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch +repo --name=fedora --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch +repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch +#repo --name=updates-testing --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-testing-f$releasever&arch=$basearch %packages @base-x diff --git a/fedora-live-mini.ks b/fedora-live-mini.ks index 2e3d33f..7272bdb 100644 --- a/fedora-live-mini.ks +++ b/fedora-live-mini.ks @@ -12,16 +12,10 @@ xconfig --startxonboot part / --size 4096 --fstype ext4 services --enabled=NetworkManager,messagebus --disabled=network,sshd -# To compose against the current release tree, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=released --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-13&arch=$basearch -# To include updates, use the following "repo" (enabled by default) -#repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f13&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against rawhide, use the following "repo" (disabled by default) -repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch - -# To compose against local trees, (edit and) use: -#repo --name=f11 --baseurl=http://localrepo/fedora/releases/11/Everything/$basearch/os/ +#repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch +repo --name=fedora --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch +repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch +#repo --name=updates-testing --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-testing-f$releasever&arch=$basearch %packages @base-x

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Today's Spins SIG meeting notes
by Bruno Wolff III 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

The main note is that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_repo_directives will be implemented. The full log is at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-30/spins-sig.2010-0… Meeting summary --------------- * Who's here (brunowolff, 20:59:43) * compose status (brunowolff, 21:00:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627280 (nirik, 21:02:32) * spins composing, need to watch sizes for some spins. (brunowolff, 21:03:25) * FYI livecd-tools (brunowolff, 21:04:02) * fedora repo changing in git repo (brunowolff, 21:06:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_repo_directives (brunowolff, 21:06:55) * ACTION: brunowolff will implement https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_repo_directives (brunowolff, 21:16:44) * odd install ks repo directives/ (brunowolff, 21:17:02) * ACTION: brunowolff will ask releng about the install ks as an FMI. (brunowolff, 21:23:16) * others (brunowolff, 21:24:20) * ACTION: brunowolff will send out meeting notes. (brunowolff, 21:30:35)

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