On 01/28/2013 12:57 AM, Aman Alam wrote: > hi our UTRRS [1] project need to expand for more languages, specially > we can start with few Asian languages (currently UTRRS only supports > Indian Languages). For start we can add Minimum Unicode code point > for those languages. Before that we can start review current status > and discuss about future plans. > > if you have any thoughts or ideas, we can start sharing now. > > Regards Hi Aman, It's certainly a good idea to start adding more languages. We would need language expertise in order to start working towards addition or more languages. Should we first list down the languages we think we could do? OR let's approach some other language mailing lists for further help.

Important question is how do we get more languages added! Thoughts?

________________________________ From: Aman Alam <apreet.alam(a)gmail.com&gt; To: utrrs-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:59 AM Subject: Re: adding more languages... ਸੋਮਵਾਰ  28 ਜਨਵਰੀ 2013 06:23 ਸਵੇਰੇ ਨੂੰ, Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ: > On 01/28/2013 12:57 AM, Aman Alam wrote: >> hi our UTRRS [1] project need to expand for more languages, specially >> we can start with few Asian languages (currently UTRRS only supports >> Indian Languages). For start we can add Minimum Unicode code point >> for those languages. Before that we can start review current status >> and discuss about future plans. >> >> if you have any thoughts or ideas, we can start sharing now. >> >> Regards > > Hi Aman, > > It's certainly a good idea to start adding more languages. We would need > language expertise in order to start working towards addition or more > languages. Should we first list down the languages we think we could do? > OR let's approach some other language mailing lists for further help. I think both ideas are good. Whereas we can  create list of language to start, which can be easy and direct way, while second approach will provide more input and data to project (which can be more accurate). We can discuss this more on irc  (currently we don't have dedicated irc channel for utrrs). Do you think we need to create new one?

> > Important question is how do we get more languages added! Thoughts? Unicode Code points can be added to start to any language. few work done for Mongolian, khmer, thai etc languages, but that is really small. Thanks -- A S Alam Punjabi Open Source Team _______________________________________________ utrrs-devel mailing list utrrs-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/utrrs-devel

Quality Engineer Red Hat Inc. PNQ Center, India. DID : +91 20 400 57385 Cell : +91 9860 140303 Fax : +91 20 660 56040 ***The wise man should restrain his senses like the crane and accomplish his purpose with due knowledge of his place, time and ability*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aman Alam" <apreet.alam(a)gmail.com&gt; To: utrrs-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:57:29 AM Subject: adding more languages... hi our UTRRS [1] project need to expand for more languages, specially we can start with few Asian languages (currently UTRRS only supports Indian Languages). For start we can add Minimum Unicode code point for those languages. Before that we can start review current status and discuss about future plans. if you have any thoughts or ideas, we can start sharing now. Hi Team In adding more Asian languages like Chinese, Japanese, Korean means first of all, we need to add the codepoints as Aman mentioned, according to the Unicode Chart. But these symbolic languages has no GSUB or GPOS as such. As I discussed with Aman, we can try to add some of the locales which follows Bramhi scripts like Thai, Vietnamese or so, as the grammatical rules for these locales more or less like Indic locales in his opinion. If so, then we can add the codepoints of these locales first and then work on adding GSUB or GPOS if exists with research and communicating with the corresponding communities.

We have another task for Indic locales pending which is adding 3rd or above level of conjuncts (GSUB). We need to discuss and request LMs to submit list of 3rd or more levels of conjuncts, in case there are any presence of such list in their respective locales and currently not present in UTRRS instance.

________________________________ From: Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com&gt; To: UTRRS Developer Mailing List <utrrs-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt; Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: adding more languages... On 01/31/2013 01:01 AM, Aman Alam wrote: > ਸੋਮਵਾਰ  28 ਜਨਵਰੀ 2013 07:55 ਸਵੇਰੇ ਨੂੰ, Satyabrata Maitra ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ: >> >> Quality Engineer >> Red Hat Inc. >> PNQ Center, India. >> DID : +91 20 400 57385 >> Cell : +91 9860 140303 >> Fax : +91 20 660 56040 >> ***The wise man should restrain his senses like the crane and >> accomplish his purpose with due knowledge of his place, time and >> ability*** >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Aman Alam" <apreet.alam(a)gmail.com&gt; >> To: utrrs-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:57:29 AM >> Subject: adding more languages... >> >> hi >> our UTRRS [1] project need to expand for more languages, specially we >> can start with few Asian languages (currently UTRRS only supports Indian >> Languages). For start we can add Minimum Unicode code point for those >> languages. Before that we can start review current status and discuss >> about future plans. >> >> if you have any thoughts or ideas, we can start sharing now. >> >> Hi Team >> >> In adding more Asian languages like Chinese, Japanese, Korean means >> first of all, we need to add the codepoints as Aman mentioned, >> according to the Unicode Chart. But these symbolic languages has no >> GSUB or GPOS as such. As I discussed with Aman, we can try to add >> some of the locales which follows Bramhi scripts like Thai, >> Vietnamese or so, as the grammatical rules for these locales more or >> less like Indic locales in his opinion. If so, then we can add the >> codepoints of these locales first and then work on adding GSUB or >> GPOS if exists with research and communicating with the corresponding >> communities. >> > yes, CJK may not required GSUB or GPOS, so south-east-asian Scripts > can be good start > >> We have another task for Indic locales pending which is adding 3rd or >> above level of conjuncts (GSUB). We need to discuss and request LMs >> to submit list of 3rd or more levels of conjuncts, in case there are >> any presence of such list in their respective locales and currently >> not present in UTRRS instance. >> > few 3 or 4 combinations are already there, which need to separate out > to make data uniform. From Indic perspective i think we can target Indian 22 Office language for this year. Regards, Pravin Satpute