Fabien Dupont wrote: > Hi all. > > I have installed cobbler to manage my distro/kickstart trees. It works > really well and I would like to go a step further by moving > configuration from kickstart to a configuration management system such > as puppet or cfengine. Taking a look at Spacewalk since it integrates > cobbler in version 0.4, I've seen one of its feature is management and > deployement of config files. Unfortunately, it only works with Oracle > and I can't install Oracle, due to infra rules. > > Can anyone tell me which configuration management system would > integrates best with cobbler ? Or which one is used with Spacewalk, so > I could migrates easily when it supports PostgreSQL ? Spacewalk uses it's own system of laying down template files. Cobbler implements it's own way of doing that is /not/ the same, but is very similar and based on the ideas of Spacewalk's. The advantage of Cobbler's system is that it allows you to use Cheetah for /both/ kickstarts and installed files, and allows you to use the same template variables between kickstart and the installed files. Files can be updated on command with koan. Since the template syntaxes are different I am not sure if Spacewalk will support the new system in the future. This is basically designed for setups where puppet is too much and not a lot of post-install configuration updating is needed. Cobbler also contains some integration for use with Puppet, see here: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/UsingCobblerWithConfigManagementSystem that allows you to define what puppet classes and variables get mapped to which profiles and systems. This would be your most advanced, but not necessarily simplest, option. I also think it's minimally tested at this point as it just came out in 1.4 (puppet users pppppplease help me with this one). Generally I'd recommend taking a look at Puppet first. > > Thanks for you help. > > -- > Fabien Dupont > System Engineer > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > cobbler mailing list > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler > _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler

Maybe have a look at genome project: http://genome.et.redhat.com This is based on cobbler, puppet and func. Thomas

On 23.01.2009, at 18:21, Fabien Dupont wrote: > Thanks. Looking forward Puppet then : I need to configure a whole > network with workstations, computing clusters, general servers (www, > mail...). > > 2009/1/23 Michael DeHaan <mdehaan(a)redhat.com <mailto:mdehaan@redhat.com>> > > Fabien Dupont wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I have installed cobbler to manage my distro/kickstart trees. > It works > > really well and I would like to go a step further by moving > > configuration from kickstart to a configuration management > system such > > as puppet or cfengine. Taking a look at Spacewalk since it > integrates > > cobbler in version 0.4, I've seen one of its feature is > management and > > deployement of config files. Unfortunately, it only works with > Oracle > > and I can't install Oracle, due to infra rules. > > > > Can anyone tell me which configuration management system would > > integrates best with cobbler ? Or which one is used with > Spacewalk, so > > I could migrates easily when it supports PostgreSQL ? > > Spacewalk uses it's own system of laying down template files. > > Cobbler implements it's own way of doing that is /not/ the same, > but is > very similar and based on the ideas of Spacewalk's. The advantage of > Cobbler's system is that it allows you to use Cheetah for /both/ > kickstarts and installed files, and allows you to use the same > template > variables between kickstart and the installed files. Files can be > updated on command with koan. Since the template syntaxes are > different > I am not sure if Spacewalk will support the new system in the future. > This is basically designed for setups where puppet is too much > and not a > lot of post-install configuration updating is needed. > > Cobbler also contains some integration for use with Puppet, see here: > https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/UsingCobblerWithConfigManagementSystem > that allows you to define what puppet classes and variables get > mapped > to which profiles and systems. This would be your most > advanced, but > not necessarily simplest, option. I also think it's minimally > tested > at this point as it just came out in 1.4 (puppet users > pppppplease help > me with this one). > > Generally I'd recommend taking a look at Puppet first. > > > > > Thanks for you help. > > > > -- > > Fabien Dupont > > System Engineer > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cobbler mailing list > > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org > <mailto:cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org> > > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler > > > > _______________________________________________ > cobbler mailing list > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org > <mailto:cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org> > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler > > > _______________________________________________ > cobbler mailing list > cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org <mailto:cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org> > https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler

Michael DeHaan wrote: > Thomas von Steiger wrote: > >> Maybe have a look at genome project: >> >> http://genome.et.redhat.com >> >> This is based on cobbler, puppet and func. >> >> Thomas >> >> > Genome is highly customized to a very specific developer use case (and > that all being said, it's good that it's out there for folks to see how > Cobbler, Puppet, and Func might be interested in an application). I > would not recommend it. It is much better to figure out how you'd want > to use these things in your own way. > > As the packager for Genome as well as all it's dependencies, this project definitely offers the new technology that one would use for cloud computing environments. As such, I think it'll be interesting to see the people (try and) apply it outside of the limited use-cases that the developers have now implemented.

Michael DeHaan wrote: > Cobbler also contains some integration for use with Puppet, see here: > https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/UsingCobblerWithConfigManagementSystem > that allows you to define what puppet classes and variables get mapped > to which profiles and systems. This would be your most advanced, but > not necessarily simplest, option. I also think it's minimally tested > at this point as it just came out in 1.4 (puppet users pppppplease help > me with this one). > > So, to get the facts straight... How much does this integration align with the Genome project, if at all? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler