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fedora CORE 1 (x86-64) on ASUS K8V/AMD64 and Promise RAID
by Mark Page 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

Hi, I've just installed the x86-64 version of FC1. The K8V mobo comes with a Promise SATA RAID controller. I've got two SATA disks (80gb each) which I initially had striped for performance (i.e. one large disk with 160gb). During the fedora install the promise controller is found and the SATA disk drives seen - but not as a striped set, that is FC sees two 80gb drives. This is also the same if I use the two disks in a mirrored set. If I let the install run it finishes ok, but refuses to boot - 'GRUB' appears on screen but immediately hangs. To get round this I've just got one disk striped (cannot disable RAID on Promise controller) and it's been fine. I can't find any help on the net about this particular issue, does any one know what I should be doing to get either striped or mirrored RAID set working properly? Regards, -Mark.

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Speaker
by Konstantin Ryabitsev 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

Hello, all: Ever since the upgrade to test1, I've not had any luck getting anything out of my internal speaker on two separate computers. It's unmuted in the volume control -- I checked. Anything else I can do to bring it back to life? It's quite useful on occasion, if only because now I have no idea when someone is pinging me in xchat. :) Regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Ryabitsev Duke Physics Systems Admin, RHCE I am looking for a job in Canada! http://linux.duke.edu/~icon/cajob.ptml

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comps.dtd; metapkg
by David Kewley 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

I've made a comps.dtd (attached) that validates the RHL 9 comps.xml using xmlproc_val, and which (to the best of my ability) expresses the logic in /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/comps.py. I only started learning XML yesterday evening, so there may be problems. I'm not sure what the dtd is useful for except validating. :) But as for validity (as opposed to well-formedness), the only thing that appears to really matter for comps.xml is whether comps.py can parse it. Which of course it can. Note that comps.py has some requirements that the comps.dtd doesn't specify (e.g. that there must be a name for each group). I would specify this requirement, but I only know how to do that by specifying a child order in the dtd. comps.xml has groups with children in different orders. I don't know how to specify in the dtd "this child must exist exactly once, but it can appear as any child". Note also that I included "requires" as a possible child for group. comps.py says this isn't in use any more, but it does parse it. And finally, I see that the element metapkg is only used in the RHL 9 comps.xml in one place: <group> <id>editors</id> <name>Editors</name> ... <grouplist> <groupreq>base</groupreq> <metapkg type="default">emacs</metapkg> <metapkg type="optional">xemacs</metapkg> </grouplist> <packagelist> <packagereq type="default">vim-enhanced</packagereq> <packagereq type="optional">vim-X11</packagereq> </packagelist> </group> Looking through the anaconda code didn't help me figure it out quickly, and I didn't find anything useful on the web, so let me ask: what is a metapackage? David

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Re: fedora-devel-list Digest, Vol 1, Issue 483
by Martin Sevior 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

> On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 01:32, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: >> package latest rawhide >> ------- --------- --------- >> abiword 2.0.5 2.0.3 >> dhcp 3.0.1rc13 3.0.1rc12 > > .. and what is the problem with not having the absolute bleeding edge > every day of the week ? Updating packages costs time, and not all > changes in new upstream releases warrant spending that time immediately, > nor does it always warrant invalidating the testing on the currently > stable package. > Actually the AbiWord-2.0.5 release contains a substantial number of bug fixes over 2.0.3. We and your users would be much happier if 2.0.5 made it into FC2. Martin Sevior

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MySQL FOSS License Exception
by Xose Vazquez Perez 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

http://www.mysql.com/products/foss-exception.html will MySQL 4.x be in Fedora ?

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Usability Studies
by Jonathan Gardner 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

Okay, so I dropped $30 an got a book on usability studies and how to make software more usable. I haven't had time to peruse the whole thing, but the first chapter has got me excited, and I've set a goal to start a movement in Fedora to actively make Fedora more usable for both Aunt Tillie and Eric Raymond, and everyone in between. On my own accord, I am going to begin doing some usability studies with my wife with some software that I enjoy using and am familiar with. I will then branch out and solicit test subjects and subjects to test from the community. I will work out the details and figure out what works and what doesn't. My goals are: 1) Develop a system of developing usability tests. 2) Develop a system of recruiting and retaining test subjects who represent the community or target audience on the cheap. 3) Develop a system of obtaining, analyizing, and publishing the results. 4) Develop a system of cooperating with the developers so that the results have maximum benefit for their projects. If you are already doing something like this, I would like to know about your experiences. Are there some people at RedHat actively working on this? Are there people in the various software communities that are doing this? Do you know where I can go for more information so that I can stand on the shoulders of giants rather than walk in their shadows? Please let me know if you know about anything related to this. I am particular interested in community, non-profit usability studies. -- Jonathan Gardner jgardner(a)jonathangardner.net

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X11 apps killing own configurations?
by Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

Hi, A minute ago I started X11 was informed that X couldn't be started since my root partition was full. So far so good. But when I freed 500mb and started X again both XMMS and GAIM lost their configuration and started in their default setup. Does anybody know how this can happen? Regards, Dennis

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Kernel 2.4 test patchlets
by Pete Zaitcev 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Hi, David: The current policy is that we have to create test branches, which produces a small chilling effect. I noticed you really started to crank out those kernels when you took over 2.4, just like in good old days. What do you think, can you ship something like the attached in some "next" release? It's for bz#116011. Thanks, -- Pete --- linux-2.4.22-1.2176/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.c 2004-03-11 20:53:43.000000000 -0800 +++ linux-2.4.26-pre2-nip/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.c 2004-03-11 22:26:04.000000000 -0800 @@ -717,9 +717,14 @@ * It's a ususal thing on serial to lose characters, isn't it? * Neener, neener! Actually, it's probably an echo loop anyway. * Only happens when getty starts talking to Visor. + * + * XXX Seems that ppp likes to do this as well. + * Adding dump_stack to catch this. */ - if (++rate % 1000 < 5) + if (++rate % 1000 < 3) { err("too much data (%d)", count); + dump_stack(); + } job->len = POST_BSIZE; } memcpy(job->buff, buf, job->len);

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autofs, auto.master
by Jurgen Botz 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Recent upgrade from development tree replaced my auto.master file... this should probably have (noreplace) directive. :j -- Jürgen Botz | While differing widely in the various jurgen(a)botz.org | little bits we know, in our infinite | ignorance we are all equal. -Karl Popper

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boost-1.31 include dir
by Satya Arjunan 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Hi all, I have used the boost-1.31 packages from the Fedora development branch. There are some significant changes. I would like to know what is the reason for creating an additional version directory such as /usr/include/boost-1_31/boost as opposed to the old one, /usr/include/boost. Additionally, I think it would be useful to create a soft link libboost_python.so to point to libboost_python-gcc.so (and others) for backwards compatibility. Thanks. satya

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