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Outage Notification - 2009-07-01 01:00 UTC
by Mike McGrath 24 Aug '23

24 Aug '23

There will be an outage starting at 2009-07-01 01:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-07-01 01:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Unaffected Services: Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Websites Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1496 Reason for Outage: Final migration step for new cvs server. It will hopefully be offline for only 30-45 minutes. The additional time is for some further tuning if needed and some verification steps. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce

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upgrading RH 9 system->Fedora with iso files and apt only
by Didier Casse 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

I have the yarrow's iso files on my HD in a RH9 system. Let's say I want to upgrade selected packages using an "apt-get install" pointing to my iso-mounted files, how do I do it? i.e I mount the iso into some /mnt/yarrow1, /mnt/yarrow 2 etc.. Then what is the complete procedure to make my apt look into my own HD to upgrade packages. Can anybody redirect me to the correct resource or some literature hanging on the web? Thanks. Assume also that I do not wish to burn CDs! I do not want to use apt-cdrom. Thanks. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg \or\ didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

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how to speed up mock?
by Farkas Levente 03 Apr '11

03 Apr '11

hi, we use mock for local package build, but it's very slow. now we install a new host just for mock with 8core, ram disks etc. it seems it still slow. first of all most of the time mock use only one 1 core of the cpu. is there any way to speed up different part of the mock build process? thanks in advance. ps. anyway is there any better place to discuss it? -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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jack2
by Andy Shevchenko 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

Hello. Nowadays the jack project has two branches - old jack (1) branch with version 0.116.2 and new one called jack2 version 1.9.3. I'd like to gather opinions and suggestions about applying new version for F13. Please, share your thoughts! Thank you. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko

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Font rendering in F13
by Matthias Clasen 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

Hey, early in the F13 cycle, we enabled the bytecode interpreter in our freetype package, since the patents on that have expired last fall. Unfortunately, it turned out that many free fonts don't actually benefit from this, and actually look worse with the bci. The reason for that is that without the bci, freetype uses its autohinter on all fonts, but with the bci turned on, it only applies hints to fonts which have them, and leaves other fonts alone. Behdad investigated the situation, and we have a plan to fix this, but doing it properly requires enhancements in multiple places (freetype, fontconfig, pango), and will not be ready in time for F13. Therefore, we decided to turn the bci off again until the necessary changes are in place to use it only on fonts which benefit from it. This change went into freetype-2.3.11-3.fc13. If your fonts look subtly different tomorrow, this is why... Matthias

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Purging the F13 orphans
by Jesse Keating 07 Jun '10

07 Jun '10

It's that time of the release cycle again, to purge the orphans before we get to feature freeze. Any unblocked orphans will be purged by the feature freeze. A list of unblocked orphans and the broken deps they would cause is at the end of this email. Taking ownership of an orphan on the devel collection will prevent them from being blocked. Remember, it is OK to let software die. Don't view this as a list of things that somebody should pick up if they have the spare time. Things should only be revived if there are actual users in need of the software. Unblocked orphan apt-mirror Unblocked orphan avarice Unblocked orphan backintime Unblocked orphan bauble Unblocked orphan clutter-gtkmm Unblocked orphan cluttermm Unblocked orphan cohoba Unblocked orphan dbxml Unblocked orphan dbxml-perl Unblocked orphan fbset Unblocked orphan gdome2 Unblocked orphan gfeed Unblocked orphan glade2 Unblocked orphan gmfsk Unblocked orphan gnome-common Unblocked orphan gtk-qt-engine Unblocked orphan gtk-sharp Unblocked orphan isight-firmware-tools Unblocked orphan jna-posix Unblocked orphan k3d Unblocked orphan keyjnote Unblocked orphan libFoundation Unblocked orphan libipoddevice Unblocked orphan libvisual Unblocked orphan libvisual-plugins Unblocked orphan libwps Unblocked orphan mhonarc Unblocked orphan moodbar Unblocked orphan nautilus-python Unblocked orphan nhpf Unblocked orphan nssbackup Unblocked orphan oooqs2 Unblocked orphan pdfedit Unblocked orphan pdumpfs Unblocked orphan perl-AnyEvent-XMPP Unblocked orphan perl-DDL-Oracle Unblocked orphan perl-Jemplate Unblocked orphan perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear Unblocked orphan perl-RRD-Simple Unblocked orphan perl-SVN-Mirror Unblocked orphan perl-SVN-Simple Unblocked orphan php-pear-Config Unblocked orphan pic2aa Unblocked orphan plotutils Unblocked orphan prctl Unblocked orphan python-pgsql Unblocked orphan qca Unblocked orphan qca-gnupg Unblocked orphan qca-ossl Unblocked orphan qca-tls Unblocked orphan qtoctave Unblocked orphan recordmydesktop Unblocked orphan roxterm Unblocked orphan sbackup Unblocked orphan showimg Unblocked orphan smarteiffel Unblocked orphan synce-kde Unblocked orphan uisp Unblocked orphan unifdef Unblocked orphan windowlab Unblocked orphan xhotkeys Unblocked orphan xmms-sid Unblocked orphan xqilla10 Unblocked orphan yoltia List of deps left behind by orphan removal: Orphan: cluttermm clutter-gtkmm requires libcluttermm-0.9.so.3 clutter-gtkmm requires cluttermm-devel = 0.9.4-3.20090907git.fc12 clutter-gtkmm-devel requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.9) = 0.9.4 clutter-gtkmm-devel requires cluttermm-devel = 0.9.4-3.20090907git.fc12 Orphan: dbxml dbxml-perl requires libdbxml-2.4.so dbxml-perl requires dbxml-devel = 2.4.16-0.5.fc12 Orphan: gdome2 workrave requires libgdome.so.0 workrave requires gdome2-devel = 0.8.1-9.fc12 Orphan: gnome-common anerley requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 at-spi requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 avant-window-navigator requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 control-center requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 cowbell requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 cups-pk-helper requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 dalston requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 epiphany requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 evolution requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 evolution-data-server requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 evolution-exchange requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 evolution-rspam requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 evolution-rss requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gconf-editor requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gedit requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gedit-vala requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gjs requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-commander requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-desktop requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-disk-utility requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-screensaver requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-session requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-shell requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-system-monitor requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gnome-utils requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gobject-introspection requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gthumb requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 gtkhtml3 requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 hornsey requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 jana requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 libgnomecups requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 liblicense requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-app-installer requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-applications requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-media requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-myzone requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-pasteboard requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-people requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 moblin-panel-status requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 mutter-moblin requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 network-manager-netbook requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 notification-daemon requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 sound-juicer requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 vala-tools requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 vino requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 yelp requires gnome-common = 2.28.0-1.fc12 Orphan: gtk-sharp avahi-ui-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 avahi-ui-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(atk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 banshee-mirage requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 bareftp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 bareftp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 bareftp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 bareftp requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 bareftp requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-evolution requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-evolution requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-gnome requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 beagle-thunderbird requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 chronojump requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 chronojump requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 chronojump requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 chronojump requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 chronojump requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 evolution-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 f-spot-screensaver requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gbrainy requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gecko-sharp2 requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gecko-sharp2 requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gmime-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(art-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(atk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-desktop-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-do requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-do requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-do requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-do requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-guitar requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-guitar requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-guitar requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-rdp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-rdp requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-rdp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-rdp requires mono(vte-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-rdp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-sharp requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-sharp requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gnome-subtitles requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gsf-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gtksourceview-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gtksourceview-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gtksourceview-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gtksourceview2-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 gtksourceview2-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 ipod-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 ipod-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 ipod-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-addins requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-addins requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-addins requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-addins requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(gtkhtml-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 mono-tools requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 monsoon requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 monsoon requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 monsoon requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 monsoon requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 muine requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 muine requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 muine requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 muine requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 notify-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 notify-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 notify-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 themonospot-gui-gtk requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 themonospot-gui-gtk requires mono(glade-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 themonospot-gui-gtk requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(gnome-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(pango-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(gconf-sharp-peditors) = 1.0.0.0 tomboy requires mono(gconf-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 webkit-sharp requires mono(gdk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 webkit-sharp requires mono(gtk-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 webkit-sharp requires mono(glib-sharp) = 1.0.0.0 Orphan: libvisual gstreamer-plugins-base requires libvisual-0.4.so.0 gstreamer-plugins-base requires libvisual-devel = 0.4.0-9.fc12 libvisual-plugins requires libvisual-0.4.so.0 libvisual-plugins requires libvisual-devel = 0.4.0-9.fc12 projectM-libvisual requires libvisual-0.4.so.0 projectM-libvisual requires libvisual-devel = 0.4.0-9.fc12 xmms2 requires libvisual-0.4.so.0 xmms2 requires libvisual-devel = 0.4.0-9.fc12 Orphan: nautilus-python nautilus-phatch requires nautilus-python = 0.5.1-5.fc12 phatch requires nautilus-python-devel = 0.5.1-5.fc12 postr requires nautilus-python-devel = 0.5.1-5.fc12 postr requires nautilus-python = 0.5.1-5.fc12 tortoisehg-nautilus requires nautilus-python = 0.5.1-5.fc12 Orphan: perl-MooseX-Traits-Attribute-CascadeClear perl-Fedora-Bugzilla requires perl(MooseX::Traits::Attribute::CascadeClear) = 0.03 Orphan: perl-SVN-Mirror perl-SVK requires perl(SVN::Mirror) = 0.75 Orphan: perl-SVN-Simple perl-SVK requires perl(SVN::Simple::Edit) = 0.27 perl-SVN-Mirror requires perl(SVN::Simple::Edit) = 0.27 Orphan: plotutils enblend requires plotutils-devel = 2.5-7.fc12 enblend requires libxmi.so.0 gwave requires plotutils = 2.5-7.fc12 pspp requires libplot.so.2 pspp requires plotutils-devel = 2.5-7.fc12 pstoedit requires libplotter.so.2 pstoedit requires plotutils-devel = 2.5-7.fc12 Orphan: qca-gnupg psi requires qca-gnupg = 2.0.0-0.4.beta3.fc12 Orphan: qca-ossl kdenetwork requires qca-ossl = 2.0.0-0.8.beta3.fc12 kmess requires qca-ossl = 2.0.0-0.8.beta3.fc12 psi requires qca-ossl = 2.0.0-0.8.beta3.fc12 Orphan: recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop requires recordmydesktop = 0.3.8.1-4.fc13 qt-recordmydesktop requires recordmydesktop = 0.3.8.1-4.fc13 The script that generated this page can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/browser/scripts/find-unblocked-orphans.py There you can also report bugs and RFEs. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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sysconfig ifcfg-* support for running custom post-up scripts per interface?
by Pasi Kärkkäinen 17 May '10

17 May '10

Hello, Has there been any plans to support running custom post-up scripts for each interface, after "ifup <interface>" ? Debian allows you to specify: iface eth0 inet static .. post-up /etc/network/if-up.d/fw.start I'm looking for something similar for rhel/fedora. Any ideas? Maybe something like POST_UP="/path/script" in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-int Thanks! -- Pasi

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Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right
by Juha Tuomala 16 May '10

16 May '10

Ironically it happened again, just now when these FESCO threads are still warm. My desktop gui processes leak enough mem that I need to restart couple times a week or system will run out of memory. Today I started with updating the F11 with yum. During the update, I noticed that it's pulling in the kde-4.4.0, scary. Then reboot. Now when I logged in, noticed that desktop has really changed quite a bit, some visual stuff even fixed. Then I tried to start kmail to start working. It starts, asks passwords, whines something about Akonadi which i don't use and then crashes/exists. kmail(4465)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-tuju/kmailRj4465.slave-socket" kmail(4465)/libakonadi Akonadi::Control::Private::exec: Could not start/stop Akonadi! kmail(4465) main: Unable to start Akonadi server, exit application kmail(4465)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: (gdb) This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve, since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time, some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my day. For all those who say that "latest stuff is the reason why I use Fedora!!!1", there is rawhide for you. For a lot of people, this kind of breakage is exactly the reason not to switch from windows/mac to Fedora. Yes, I'm writing this with Alpine... handling pdf attachments and doing invoicing with it is going to be fun. KDE SIG, you need to re-think that proposal again. Tuju -- Ajatteleva ihminen tarvitsee unta.

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should man-pages-* have Requires: man?
by Ivana Varekova 06 May '10

06 May '10

For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) and man-pages package. Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I think man dependences should be consistent in all man-pages* packages. From my point of view man dependency should be in all of them. Any ideas? Ivana Hutarova Varekova

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spin kickstart/minimization cleanups
by Colin Walters 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

As you may or may not know I've been unhappy with how the Live image path has diverged from the automated install path (standalone anaconda + @gnome-desktop) for the desktop. Attached is a series of patches to both comps and spin-kickstarts which has a a high level goal of moving the two closer. Basically there are 3 fundamentally separate concepts which got intertwined: * Bits necessary for running a Live OS (turning off cron, etc) * Removing things we do want to fit into a CD * Removing "traditional Unix workstation" or other stuff that @base grew we don't want in @desktop regardless of space The comps patches come first, then the spin-kickstart patches. This isn't complete but I think it's a noticeable improvement. We still have more comps gardening to do. Note the spin-kickstart patches obsolete the second of the patch I sent earlier.

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