January 2009 - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists

by Jens-Ulrik Petersen

----- "Pete Zaitcev" <zaitcev(a)redhat.com> wrote: > From the standpoint of Fedora's architecture in general, I am > concerned with an emerging pattern of trying to fix issues by > rewriting everything. > Sure, IIIMF was a disaster and had to go, but SCIM is not that bad. > For me, as a user, it's difficult to estimate just how big the > advantage in maintainability is. You have to understand that input methods projects are not big. SCIM has architectural limitations that stop us doing things we want to. Fixing those would largely mean rewriting it anyway. Jens

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Re: Fedora I18n project meeting

by Jens-Ulrik Petersen

The log of today's fedora-i81n meeting is now on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-01-20 if you missed it. Thanks, Jens

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Re: ibus and F11

by Nicolas Mailhot

Le Mar 20 janvier 2009 08:05, Jens Petersen a écrit : > Yep, ibus supports Ctrl+Space for toggling by default just like scim. BTW: this will conflict with some XKB layouts, and some apps. This needs to be configurable (a successful im switcher would merge with the gnome xkb keyboard switching applet and keep all its useful features) -- Nicolas Mailhot

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ibus and F11

by Jens-Ulrik Petersen

Hi, Peng Huang and Fedora i18n are submitting a Feature to use ibus [1] as the default input method system in F11. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus iBus was added to Fedora during the F10 cycle and is under active development. We now feel that it is ready for wider testing and to become sufficiency stable and featured to be the default input method for Fedora 11. There will also be some more discussion about this in the Fedora I18n meeting tomorrow, announced last week. [2] Jens [1] http://code.google.com/p/ibus/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings

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pkg-config-0.21-requires-private-fix.patch breaks Requires.private Cflags

by Chitlesh GOORAH

Hello there, the pkg-config-0.21-requires-private-fix.patch breaks Requires.private Cflags. There is already a bug opened with respect to this issue since a year now. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426106 http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/202148-heads-up-enabling-... I was recently ping'ed by an upstream complaining about why this patch is still being shipped. http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Jan-2009/msg00591.html My question is what is the solution to this issue and what should both packagers and upstream do ? Since we have many upstream projects using Fedora to develop their software, I believe we can not afford to keep it broken. Kind regards, Chitlesh

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RPM Advice

by Nathanael D. Noblet

Hello, I realize this isn't a fedora specific issue, but I know you are all very rpm knowledgeable and might have a quick answer to my issue. I'm building a few bash scripts for use in our company. We have a few fedora based workstations so I thought, easier than copying the scripts everywhere - lets create an rpm so I can update them as need be. So instead of a bunch of separate bash scripts for each different command, I would have a common script that included a common library of functions, and then a single file for each command. So the basis is this: main command located /usr/bin it has a line SCRIPTDIR=..... while developing I need that to be the local files I'm working on so I have it set to ./scripts, but when I deploy as an rpm I need it changed to %_datadir/%{name}... I couldn't find a 'good' way of doing that. Any suggestions? -- Nathanael d. Noblet T: 403.875.4613

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Re: ibus and F11

by Jens-Ulrik Petersen

----- "Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski" <dominik(a)greysector.net> wrote: > But if I install ibus, I'll have to configure it from scratch, right? > There is no settings migration from SCIM, is there? True. Not that many settings to migrate, but there is no migration of settings. I like Pete's analogy with metacity, and hope that ibus can provide sane defaults where possible to avoid needing too much configuration, but there will be some configuration available for the input engines. Jens

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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2009-01-19

by John Poelstra

Recap and full IRC transcript found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2009-jan-19 Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page. == F11 Alpha == * freeze on 2009-01-20 * discussion about sha256 signatures * need to create a new package signing key == IRC Transcript ==

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[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

by Tom Callaway

As usual, the Fedora Packaging Committee has been busy adding and amending the Fedora Packaging Guidelines. Specifically: The Packaging Guidelines describing desktop-file-install have been changed. Specifically, new packages no longer need to set "vendor" (existing packages must keep using "vendor" for the lifetime of that package). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#desktop-file-install_... The Packaging Guidelines have been changed to reflect the fact that Fedora packages must adhere to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), with the exception of libexecdir (as specified in the GNU Coding Standards) and /usr/target for cross-compilers. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#layout The Font Packaging Guidelines have been changed. There is a new section which covers Font Package Layout: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy#Package_layout_for_f... In addition, there is a new set of Guidelines covering the naming of Font Packages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy#Naming Also, there is a new set of Guidelines covering the technical implementation of Font Packages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:FontsPolicy#Technical_implementa... The Eclipse Plugin Guidelines were updated to reflect Eclipse 3.4: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:EclipsePlugins The Ruby Guidelines were updated to better handle situations where a Ruby Gem includes an extension library written in C: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Ruby#Ruby_Gem_with_extension_lib... These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC) and ratified by FESCo. Many thanks to Andrew Overholt, Mamoru Tasaka, Nicolas Mailhot, and all of the members of the FPC and FESCo, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. As a reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce

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Summary of the 2009-01-20 Packaging Committee meeting

by Jason L Tibbitts III

Meeting minutes and full logs of the 2009-01-20 FPC meeting are online: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Minutes http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Minutes/20090120 Summary: The following drafts are now official guidelines, having been accepted by FESCo last week: * Font package splitting rules - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rule... * Font package naming - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_naming_%282009... These should be written into the guidelines soon if this hasn't already been done by the time you read this. Issues pending FESCo ratification: * Explicit Requires * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/ExplicitRequires * Note that this contains an additional section about commenting non-obvious items in spec files. * Updated Haskell Guidelines * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Haskell * Symlinks * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Symlinks - J<

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