On 03/03/2010 02:27 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
Okay. This has gone on long enough. The signal is gone from the following threads:
The signal is not entirely gone, although it is getting weaker.
- FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call forfeedback)
- Worthless updates
- Refining the update queues/process
Accordingly, I'm marking those threads as Hall-Monitored. Please stop posting in them. If you have a concrete suggestion on how to improve Fedora updates, please write it in a wiki page, open a FESCo trac ticket, and they will consider it.
The problem is that having a concrete suggestion of how to improve fedora updates requires knowing whether we want a more stable update cycle or a more semi-rolling update style. It would be easy for us to carte blanch hand down an edict on this, but that would also be wrong. This is a community driven distribution, and by my count the number of people that stood up in favor of semi-rolling updates was not that different from the number of people that stood up for stable updates (I have something like 4 for semi-rolling and 6 for stable, but many people didn't make their preferences perfectly clear, and this count is from my admittedly worthless memory of those that were explicit in their desires).
So while I agree that some of the posts where people are simply attacking other people need to stop, I can't agree that this thread has reached a stage where it is advisable to stop constructive discussions. I would argue that it's necessary to continue constructive discussions in order to reach the stage where a wiki page and proposals makes sense.