Java debugging

To be able to debug a Java problem, I need class files compiled with -g and the source files. Java packages set up for AOT compilation with GCJ do have debuginfo packages, but they are symbol files for the GCJ-compiled .so files only, with no source files. Has anybody looked at what it would take to set things up for a reasonable Java debugging environment? The source file problem can be solved pretty easily, I think, but what about compiling with -g? I see 4 answers to that question: 1. Never compile with -g. People who want to debug have to recompile their own JARs. 2. Always compile with -g and make everybody eat the bloat. 3. Compile all Java code twice, once to create a debug JAR and once to create the normal distribution JAR. The debug JAR goes into the corresponding debuginfo package. 4. Always compile with -g. Store the original JAR in the corresponding debuginfo package, then strip out the debug symbols and put the resulting JAR into the regular package. I looked through both the JPackage and the Fedora Java guidelines but did not see anything that addresses this issue. Has anybody thought about this before? I prefer the answer to be "not #1". :-) This came up, by the way, because I'm having problems with a web service call. It looks like an AXIS bug to me, but I can't step into the AXIS code.... -- Jerry James http://loganjerry.googlepages.com/