On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:56 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 18.7.2013 10:42, Mathieu Bridon napsal(a):
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:34 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a):
So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" dependency (or something named like that) and then make the classic syslog implementations provide that and the packages which actually need /var/log/messages pull that it?
Lennart
So why there are files in /var/log and there is not obvious package, which creates them (unless you want to guess by name)? Shouldn't all package, which creates log in /var/log have some virtual provide to make it obvious? Why not do it properly/consistently?
Why a virtual provides, can't they just %ghost their log files?
That would be the best of course, unfortunately: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#File_Dependencies
But may be YUM/DNF can be improved in this area
Right, but that's only if you need to express a file requirement.
Your point above was that every package which drops a file in /var/log (e.g httpd) should have virtual-provides for them.
But I don't think there's ever any reason to require the file /var/log/https/error_log
On the other hand, Lennart's original mail above was about syslog implementations, not "all package, which creates log in /var/log".