On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 12:09 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 17:39 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Comparing the Ubuntu 10.04 DVD installer (which I use a couple of weeks ago) to Fedora 13 DVD installer is like comparing the Cessna to a Boeing 747. Sure, both can accomplish the same task. Read: transporting people from one airport to another, but lets see you try transporting 400 peoples from London to NY using a Cessna...
The same logic applies to the Ubuntu installer: As long as you require a fairly basic -desktop- configuration (Read: No fancy storage, no LVM, no fancy setup source [nfs, dvd, http], -very- basic encryption, standard software set and repository selection, etc), the Ubuntu installer is a great tool, but once you need something complex, you're screwed.
That's all true. I've found the Ubuntu installer looks /very/ polished and nice for very common install cases, but I always use LVM on every install that I do, and last time I did a VM install of Ubuntu, I had to switch to a VT and get LVM sorted on the command line. Not super user friendly as compared with Anaconda. Other installers were even more of a joke doing this stuff. Tried doing LVM on Gentoo? :) Things like LVM and VNC do really matter, and not just for "Enterprise" users. You don't need to use LVM w/wo RAID, you can just do bare partitions if you don't care about being able to do anything useful with your disks at all :)
Amen to that. Given the absurdly cheap price of HD these days, I usually opt for LVM over software RAID1 / RAID5 on each and every workstation machine I install. Achieving the same using the Ubuntu installer would have required a lot of manual mdadm and lvm pv/vg/lv** commands. (Let alone their basic disk partitioning tool)
... In their race for Joe-six-pack and Apple like polish, Ubuntu gave up on many Linux core capabilities. Hopefully Fedora will -not- follow suite.
- Gilboa
- Gilboa