On 4/21/23 20:52, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 08:24:14AM +0300, Benson Muite wrote:
However, it doesn't seem like we can hack on it to better suite community needs, for example to have the same functionality as mailing lists[2]. It is not standards driven and is primarily developed by one company - something that follows Apache way[3] or has a community governance process would be better in the long term for a large project with many contributors who have technical expertise.
We definitely _can_ hack on it to better fit community needs. Changes might not automatically get accepted, but we've got a good relationship and I don't expect any kind of antagonism if we have something important.
Good working relationship is ok for small projects. Discourse has grown and adapted because of this. Discourse is fantastic as a forum which is not read on a daily basis but periodically as the need arises. Need stability and a governance model for critical infrastructure. Web first philosophy kills productivity that a primarily text driven workflow has for many people.
On 2) https://discourse.cmake.org/t/cmake-discourse-mailing-list-mode-incorrectly-... in particular... that's just the Cmake forum admin saying that the particular thing doesn't exist, not a Discourse dev saying they won't take a change.
Although on that specific change.... Discourse attaches List-Id and other standard email headers (as well as some specific X-Discourse headers) to each message. Changing the To: line to be some list address could be done with a plugin, but might actually have negative consequences for reliable delivery.
Email clients offer significant customizability that a one size fits all web interface cannot provide. Mailing list mode for Discourse is helpful, but not at the same level as email lists, where once one has
"Mailing list mode" was a specific thing in earlier versions of Discourse — it sent a notification for every message posted. This is kind of like going to Hyperkitty and saying "subscribe me to all 600 lists". I don't recommend that. Instead, choose specific tags that you want to subscribe to, just as you would subscribe to individual mailing lists.
I have a post about this and Fedora Discussion specifically:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/navigating-fedora-discussion-tags-cat...
This is helpful. Wish it were a magazine article. Those get read.