I'd like to know why people are pushing EPEL-8 builds without engaging with the maintainers of the packages.

Dne 07. 11. 19 v 11:12 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > I'd like to know why people are pushing EPEL-8 builds without engaging > with the maintainers of the packages. Because they can? Nothing in guidelines say: "you have to contact maintainer of different branch when you request new one".

Of course, it is better if they ask you first. And of course, you can ask those people directly too :)

On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 04:48:41PM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:36 PM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > > Dne 07. 11. 19 v 11:12 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > > I'd like to know why people are pushing EPEL-8 builds without engaging > > > with the maintainers of the packages. > > > > Because they can? > > Nothing in guidelines say: "you have to contact maintainer of different branch when you request new one". > > If there's specific reasons that a maintainer wouldn't want it in el8 > surely the right thing to do would be to engage so they could at least > offer to co-maintain it for el8. I feel it's wrong to assume that > someone is able to take on the load of maintaining the package for the > lifetime of el8 without engagement. If the person doesn't have the > time or interest it just ends up with something that will bitrot and > give everyone a bad experience. > > I feel the guidelines should include those requirements or something > similar else it's just hostile to expect that someone takes up that > extra load whether they want to or not!. Yeah, the epel guidelines do, but I don't think there's any enforcement. :( Long back in the pkgdb days the way it worked is that you request a branch and if you are maintainer/comaintainer you can just have it, if you are not you had to wait at least a week for the maintainers to ack/nack the request. Sadly, I don't think there was any notification of these, so people would just request and wait a week and get the branch. Perhaps we can add a check to the new branch request thing that hopefully will land soon. Pingou? I'd even be ok with just requiring you be a maintainer to request the branch. It's completely not right to sign someone else up for a bunch of work without their consent.

Dne 07. 11. 19 v 11:12 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > I'd like to know why people are pushing EPEL-8 builds without engaging > with the maintainers of the packages. Because they can? Nothing in guidelines say: "you have to contact maintainer of different branch when you request new one".

OTOH I would like to not be bothered with the EPEL branch requests. There used to be a way to state that I don't mind people creating EPEL branches for my packages, because I personally don't care. I am aware about option to do so.