10:42 a.m.
Halle,
I have got a mail from a guy which ask me for co-maintainership of the inady-mt package.
Unfortunately, I have got the below error report on the try to contact
him via mail.
So I would like to ask how I can contact him via an alternative mail
contact.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
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no valid MX hosts found
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From: Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de>
To: Michael Cronenworth <mike(a)cchtml.com>
Subject: Re: inadyn-mt help
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10:47 a.m.
On 01/14/2015 10:42 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
I have got a mail from a guy which ask me for co-maintainership of
the inady-mt package.
Unfortunately, I have got the below error report on the try to contact
him via mail.
So I would like to ask how I can contact him via an alternative mail
contact.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
Hi,
I'm here. I'm not sure why your e-mail failed. Could you try it again?
11:26 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:47:07AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Hi,
I'm here. I'm not sure why your e-mail failed. Could you try it again?
When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour domain
doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the
homstmaster of your domain without any response.
It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because
this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
Skript gestartet auf Mi 14 Jan 2015 18:16:05 CET
; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1-RedHat-9.9.6-6.P1.fc21 <<>> cchtml.com mx
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 62795
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cchtml.com. IN MX
;; Query time: 6 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.178.2#53(192.168.178.2)
;; WHEN: Mi Jan 14 18:16:05 CET 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 39
Skript beendet: Mi 14 Jan 2015 18:16:05 CET
11:27 a.m.
On 01/14/2015 11:26 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour
domain
doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the
homstmaster of your domain without any response.
It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because
this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain.
My domain does list an MX record. I'm afraid there is a problem with your local DNS.
$ dig @8.8.8.8 MX cchtml.com
; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1-RedHat-9.9.6-6.P1.fc21 <<>> @8.8.8.8 MX
cchtml.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30951
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cchtml.com. IN MX
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cchtml.com. 1799 IN MX 10 mail.cchtml.com.
;; Query time: 128 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan 14 11:27:06 CST 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 60
11:44 a.m.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:27:51 -0600
Michael Cronenworth <mike(a)cchtml.com> wrote:
On 01/14/2015 11:26 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour
> domain doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the
> homstmaster of your domain without any response.
>
> It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because
> this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain.
My domain does list an MX record. I'm afraid there is a problem with
your local DNS.
...snip...
In addition, just to be clear, a MX record is not actually required.
If there's no MX record, a A record should be used. (If any).
If there's no MX or A, then there's a problem. :)
kevin
11:37 a.m.
Once upon a time, Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> said:
When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour
domain
doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the
homstmaster of your domain without any response.
Look at your results; you did not get that result in your dig. You got
a "status: SERVFAIL", which means your recursive server had some type of
failure while trying to resolve cchtml.com/MX. It works for me from
several locations on the Internet, so the problem would appear to be
with your DNS.
--
Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net>
11:52 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:37:22AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
Look at your results; you did not get that result in your dig. You
got
tahk you for your information, but the error message was created by a
relay host located by my ISP.
failure while trying to resolve cchtml.com/MX. It works for me from
several locations on the Internet, so the problem would appear to be
with your DNS.
I have retried to send the message without any success. But I have tried to
maske an DNS query directly agins the Google DNS and have find out, that the
hostname, which you have specified as a mail excahnge is a CNAME. But this is not
allowed for MX records. MX records have to point to A reords instead of CNAME
records.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
Skript gestartet auf Mi 14 Jan 2015 18:42:28 CET
; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1-RedHat-9.9.6-6.P1.fc21 <<>> @8.8.8.8
mail.cchtml.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61595
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mail.cchtml.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
mail.cchtml.com. 1720 IN CNAME cchtml.com.
cchtml.com. 100 IN A 71.86.124.216
;; Query time: 16 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mi Jan 14 18:42:28 CET 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 74
Skript beendet: Mi 14 Jan 2015 18:42:28 CET
12:03 p.m.
On 01/14/2015 11:52 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
I have retried to send the message without any success. But I have
tried to
maske an DNS query directly agins the Google DNS and have find out, that the
hostname, which you have specified as a mail excahnge is a CNAME. But this is not
allowed for MX records. MX records have to point to A reords instead of CNAME
records.
Yes, my registrar over-simplified the mail record interface. I have now fixed that.
Regardless, this is the first time I've had an issue with receiving e-mail.
12:39 p.m.
Once upon a time, Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> said:
I have retried to send the message without any success. But I have
tried to
maske an DNS query directly agins the Google DNS and have find out, that the
hostname, which you have specified as a mail excahnge is a CNAME. But this is not
allowed for MX records. MX records have to point to A reords instead of CNAME
records.
MX->CNAME is against RFCs but in common enough real-world usage that
anything that doesn't handle it is generally considered broken.
However, that isn't the case for cchtml.com; the MX points to
cchtml.com, not mail.cchtml.com, and cchtml.com has an A record.
--
Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net>
12:48 p.m.
On 01/14/2015 12:39 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
MX->CNAME is against RFCs but in common enough real-world usage
that
anything that doesn't handle it is generally considered broken.
However, that isn't the case for cchtml.com; the MX points to
cchtml.com, not mail.cchtml.com, and cchtml.com has an A record.
That was not the case 30 minutes ago. I modified the MX record to point to
cchtml.com.
My registrar may have changed something recently as the interface allows for an
IP address and that wasn't what it was doing.
3:26 p.m.
Am 14.01.2015 um 19:39 schrieb Chris Adams:
MX->CNAME is against RFCs but in common enough real-world usage
that
anything that doesn't handle it is generally considered broken.
Well, one of the biggest German freemailers refused to send emails for
recipient domains using "MX is CNAME" when using their web interface (as of
2014).
fs
12:05 p.m.
Am 14.01.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because
this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain
bullshit - fix your mailserver
there is no need for a MX record
read the SMTP RFC
the only reason when you need a MX is if your inbound mailserver is on a
different machine then the A-record for the domain
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nslookup cchtml.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: cchtml.com
Address: 71.86.124.216
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ telnet 71.86.124.216 25
Trying 71.86.124.216...
Connected to 71.86.124.216.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 cchtml.com ESMTP Postfix
EHLO harry
250-cchtml.com
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 20480000
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIM
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