I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts

1 - during the first boot smolt panicked - there was an error related to time zones in python-sitepackages or something like that. 2 - I tried to reboot the system - ctrl + alt + del, but it stopped on process termination 3 - after reboot system wanted my root password for partition check - after I pressed each key, the system gave me a communicate about wrong password I guess this is a plymouth bug. I disabled it in grub conf and system works correctly. Is there any chance to completely remove plymouth from the system? (even from initrd) 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something wrong is happening while udev loading 5 - default gnome sound scheme is terrible

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:31 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts > > 1 - during the first boot smolt panicked - there was an error related > to time zones in python-sitepackages or something like that. Could you try to reproduce and provide more precise details on the error? There's not a lot we can do with that level of detail.

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:08 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:31 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts > > > > > > 1 - during the first boot smolt panicked - there was an error related > > > to time zones in python-sitepackages or something like that. > > > > Could you try to reproduce and provide more precise details on the > > error? There's not a lot we can do with that level of detail. > > > > The smolt firstboot thing is already fixed, just didn't make it in time > for the beta, my bad. Is there a bug report I can reference so I can add this to the Common Bugs page with a reasonable level of detail?

I don't remember if a bug got opened for that one or not, basically when firstboot loads the smolt module fails so it doesn't load. It's attempting to import a deprecated library that doesn't exist. It doesn't actually prevent any functionality other then users don't get prompted to enable smolt. Firstboot continues as normal with license, create user, date time, etc.

2009/10/21 Adam Williamson<awilliam(a)redhat.com>: > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:31 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> I guess this is a plymouth bug. I disabled it in grub conf and system >> works correctly. Is there any chance to completely remove plymouth >> from the system? (even from initrd) > > > From a quick look, we don't have a bug filed for the fact that entering > the root password at this point doesn't work with Plymouth. Could you > please file one with a full description, and mark it as blocking > F12Blocker? Thanks. Here is a bug report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530224 I don't know how to mark it as a blocker. > >> 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop >> http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something >> wrong is happening while udev loading > > Please file a bug for this, on 'udev' component for now, and CC Harald > Hoyer (hhoyer at redhat). Thanks! >

Done https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530226 >> 5 - default gnome sound scheme is terrible > > This is a pretty subjective topic. Yes, I know :) Regards, Michal

> 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop > http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something > wrong is happening while udev loading

Hi Michal, I just installed Fedora 12 Beta into a VirtualBox VM and I'm experiencing the same symptoms. How did you disable plymouth from grub? The whole boot process is really slow. Regards, Ilyes Gouta. 2009/10/21 Michał Piotrowski <mkkp4x4(a)gmail.com&gt;: > Hi, > > I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts > > 1 - during the first boot smolt panicked - there was an error related > to time zones in python-sitepackages or something like that. > 2 - I tried to reboot the system - ctrl + alt + del, but it stopped on > process termination > 3 - after reboot system wanted my root password for partition check - > after I pressed each key, the system gave me a communicate about wrong > password > I guess this is a plymouth bug. I disabled it in grub conf and system > works correctly. Is there any chance to completely remove plymouth > from the system? (even from initrd) > 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop > http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something > wrong is happening while udev loading > 5 - default gnome sound scheme is terrible > > The first impression isn't good. > > Regards, > Michal > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list >

Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram

> Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging > stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking.