Support for PalmOS handhelds has been broken in Fedora since early 2005. (It's a long and tortuous story I can tell you later, should you be interested!) There's a proposed solution waiting in bugzilla - it even shows off Fedora's shiny new PolicyKit functionality. I note, with trepidation, that the F9 freeze is in a week. IMHO it would be enormously frustrating if we went through another Fedora release with this still broken. It would be splendid if Fedora could close this chapter and ship a working pilot-link package once again. What we need is some review from HAL knowledgeable people of the proposed .fdi and .policy files (this has been screwed up once already; the current pilot-link in updates has a freshly broken configuration. *sigh*). Based on a great deal of groundwork from many others (thanks!), I've gone from asking for advice (no conclusive response) to putting out a proposed solution. I've picked up a lot as I've gone along, but this doesn't mean I know what I'm doing ;) Indeed, based on what's happened so far, I'd say all involved are a bit shaky on the HAL/PolicyKit front. We need a little help. The basic premise is sound. Good starting points would be the references at the end of: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=280251#c119 and if it's sensible to push some of it upstream to hal-info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-February/010836.html The pilot-link packager maintains that we can't make another release until this bug is also fixed; personally I'm not so convinced it's a blocker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431377 (and hey, a pilot-link package hit updates only yesterday which triggers this crash) Apologies if this seems impatient or if I'm treading on anyones toes. If anyone is already on the case a simple acknowledgement would be very re-assuring. We're tantalisingly close to fixing a 3 year old bug, but it's been taken as far as those directly involved can. Help! BACK STORY: I've written this up once already: http://lists.pilot-link.org/pipermail/pilot-link-general/2008-February/00... which was in response to: http://lists.pilot-link.org/pipermail/pilot-link-general/2008-February/00... http://lists.pilot-link.org/pipermail/pilot-link-general/2008-February/00... These views of Fedora are prevalent in the pilot-link community, and not without foundation. Many thanks, kev.