Michael Schwendt wrote: If i were just making arguments about offering choice for a backup solution, I would be more than happy to just populate fedora.us with choices. But what I'm really trying to get at is I think there is a real need for FC to offer something in the way of an easy-bake backup tool as a default offering that simply fills a defined backup policy usefully to a mundane user. And I would go further if possible to encourage users to use the tool as part of the install process...since really, the users who would probably most benefit from such an easy-bake tool probably to be told that it exists since they probably haven't really thought about how they want to do data backups. How integrated a default backup tool should be to try to provide a mundane user with a reasonable backup policy as part of the install, is a larger harder question. But to be clear, I think most mundane end-users who are running fedora systems at home standalone or in a small lan would be served by having a gui backup tool that did backups to large harddrives either locally or on the lan. More than that would of course be great(or mind-numbingly confusing)...but I'm not going to expect anything more than that from a first cut at an easy-bake gui tool for this. rdiff-backup looks compelling to me as the underpinnings of a KISS gui tool to do backups and restores. The fact that its already in fedora.us probably makes it more compelling as the basis of an easy-bake tool for FC2. -jef"i never want to hear 'how do i undelete a file on ext3' again"spaleta