Hi Jiri! I used to think in the same way that system-config-language is no longer necessary but apparently it installs supporting packages for the languages and that is why people still use it. I agree that some changes are required and we will make necessary changes in F19. Thanks, Anish P. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jiri Eischmann" <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt; To: devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 June, 2013 4:12:44 PM Subject: Does anyone still use system-config-language? Hi, I wonder if any spin is still using system-config-language. GNOME has its own graphical utility to install language support, but AFAIK there is no counterpart in other environments, right? The problem is that system-config-language is completely broken since F18 (see [1] because it didn't reflect changes in language groups. So if there is no spin using it, we should probably remove it from Fedora because in the current state, it's completely broken and useless. If there is still need for the utility, then it probably should be fixed. BTW what are recommended ways to install language support in e.g. KDE and Xfce? Is there any other graphical way other than system-config-language? Jiri [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=901831 -- devel mailing list devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Hi Jiri, On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: system-config-language is a distro specific tool. It just installs required packages and set the root user language. I find this tool useful where you don't need to find particular fonts or input methods explicitly and install them. Good for novice users. GNOME language support is a different from system-config-language. The problem is that system-config-language is completely broken since system-config-language is used to install language support that includes fonts, input-method engine and any other packages listed for that language group in comps file. Since comps moved to start using yum-langpacks and few language support groups have been removed, system-config-language failed to install support for those languages. If we decide to re-write this tool for yum-langpacks then other packages will not get pulled automatically which have been explicitly listed in comps for some languages. I still have not got solution on how to balance this in system-config-language. I am looking into fixing system-config-language but not sure how much time will it take. Regards, Parag

On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 12:42 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Just as a side note on this, as I wanted to let people know about it...with many thanks to Vratislav Podzimek, system-config-keyboard should be working again for Fedora 19, and we've sent an update to Fedora 18 which should fix it there too. Karma on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10293/system-config-k... and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10318/system-config-k... would be welcome. It now both reads and sets the system-wide keyboard layout configuration via systemd-localed. If you're running GNOME you should really use GNOME's config tool (which is on the Region & Language panel), and if you're using KDE you can choose to use the system-wide settings or create a KDE-specific user config, but for other desktops, this should be pretty useful. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net