Matthew Miller wrote: No, we're talking systems that _are_ capable of running Fedora _Core_. We're talking settop boxes, notepads, inventory devices, military interfaces, etc... stuff with _full_ GUIs! Stuff that has 128MB+ of RAM, a 20GB+ disk (typically 2.5" or even 1") and wireless networking. We're talking _modern_ applications! The only exception is the "core" of the sub-2W SoC is typically a 486 ISA. At the same time, its performance spanks a Pentium Pro silly! Huh? If an engineer likes Fedora, he's most likely going to want to use Fedora as a base for these devices. If a device is capable of using a popular distro, it _will_. Fedora is _ideal_ for these applications! We're not talking "Having Linux running on them is cool" -- these devices are _already_ running Linux _now_! _Millions_ already! AFAICT, Fedora Core is aimed at providing a community that shares a popular distro. The distro is aimed at people who have systems that are at least 5th/6th generation "class" performance, 128MB+ RAM and a hard drive. I'm not taking about accomodating any "lite" systems. That's what MontaVista and other "embedded" Linux systems do. No, I'm talking about an, again, 5th/6th generation "class" performing device, 128MB+ RAM and a hard drive. They have GUIs, are used for It's a crapload easier to not only build but, more importantly, _maintain_ (which is 80% of the engineering cycle) the distribution. If they can tap Fedora Core, then it's 99% easier. I'm not advocating changing Core (that's for another project ;-). But darn it, why oh why don't you guys realize that there are literally millions of systems running Linux _now_ that have a 486 ISA? Not some "old" system that needs Fedora "Lite," but one with 128MB+ RAM, a hard drive, a GUI and performance that smacks a Pentium Pro silly. -- Bryan J. Smith, E.I. -- b.j.smith(a)ieee.org