I have a correction, it is called "Plugin finder service" and not "Ubuntu plugin service" and here are the screenshots:

I'm not even sure we would need to run a service actually, if a client side firefox extension could intercept the plugin request and translate it into a packaging provides to send to packagekit. This is something to bring up with the packagekit developers.

Richard Hughes (hughsient(a)gmail.com) said: > Then you just need to convert the plugin request -> rpm provide and then > just tell PackageKit what provide you want installing. It'll even show > the user a menu with choice if there's more than one package providing > this. > > Yell if you are interested making this work. The biggest issue is with things like Flash where we don't control the packaging.

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Valent Turkovic > <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> Hi, I must share this report with you. >> I don't use Ubuntu but I installed it on one PC in a lab for students >> and kids to learn using it (we have half Fedora and half Ubuntu lab). >> I opened Firefox and went to www.redhatmagazine.com and immediately I >> got a pop up window with a choice to install Adobe Flash, Swhdec or >> Gnash plugin. I was amazed how well this worked and that I had a >> choice to pick any one plugin that I believe it better. >> I know about Fedora's upstream mentality but I must take my hat to >> Ubuntu devels for making their "Ubuntu plugin service" work great. I >> know that this is what Mozilla should have made but with their track >> for supporting linux isn't the best one. > > > Are you volunteering to create the necessary firefox extension and the > plugin finder service implementation which mimics what Ubuntu is > doing? Can you find the code that implements the service as they > provide it for review? Until we know how they do it, and what data > they use to do it, we don't really have a starting point worth talking > about as to whether we can do what they do. I would have some > concerns about running a central Fedora service, because any service > Fedora would run would not be able to point at or reference a 3rd > party repository at all..which would sort of defeat the point i think. > > I've also already had conversations with upstream Mozilla people > concerning enhancing the upstream plugin finder... upstream > contribution is welcome... its just a matter of people working with > them. > > I'm not even sure we would need to run a service actually, if a client > side firefox extension could intercept the plugin request and > translate it into a packaging provides to send to packagekit. This is > something to bring up with the packagekit developers. > > Regardless of whether this was upstream code or a Fedora specific > extension or service... > someone who cares about this would need to step forward to work on it > or it's not going to go anywhere. > > -jef > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid Have you maybe also talked with Ubuntu devels that made Ubuntu "Plugin finder service" ? Maybe they are willing to contribute their code and expertise to upstream Mozilla for this ? Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid > > Have you maybe also talked with Ubuntu devels that made Ubuntu "Plugin > finder service" ? > Maybe they are willing to contribute their code and expertise to > upstream Mozilla for this ? Have I asked? No.. because frankly this is not an issue I care about. I personally do not care about flash because flash is not important to me. But clearly its important to you. If you want to push this approach as something Fedora should be doing then I need you to do two things as a starting point for a discussion. 1) I need you to point us specifically to the client side code that Ubuntu is using to add capabilities to Firefox. 2) I need you to point us specifically to the server side code that Ubuntu is using to create a service. There really isn't a lot to talk about until we can specifically look at the implementation they are using and whether its compatible with our policies. I'm going to withhold judgement on whether we can do something similar until I understand how their implementation works by being able to play with the source code they've already put together. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Hi, I must share this report with you. I don't use Ubuntu but I installed it on one PC in a lab for students and kids to learn using it (we have half Fedora and half Ubuntu lab). I opened Firefox and went to www.redhatmagazine.com and immediately I got a pop up window with a choice to install Adobe Flash, Swhdec or Gnash plugin. I was amazed how well this worked and that I had a choice to pick any one plugin that I believe it better. I know about Fedora's upstream mentality but I must take my hat to Ubuntu devels for making their "Ubuntu plugin service" work great. I know that this is what Mozilla should have made but with their track for supporting linux isn't the best one. And also I see some projects that fedora made and didn't wait for the others but fedora and red hat devels made them because they were missing (pulseaudio, networkmanager, and lots of others...) so does it make sense to you that Fedora makes also "Fedor plugin service" for Fedora 10 or do you believe that if it is not in Firefox by default than Fedora should not touch it in anyway? Why? Cheers,