5:26 a.m.
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
Provisioning =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman <dlehman(a)fedoraproject.org>
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability.
This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS
installation.
== Detailed description ==
Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic
partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage
configuration.
== Scope ==
Proposal owners: implement Thin Provisioning functionality in the installer
Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
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10:22 a.m.
Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik(a)redhat.com) said:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
Provisioning =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman <dlehman(a)fedoraproject.org>
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability.
This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS
installation.
== Detailed description ==
Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic
partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage
configuration.
While documentation is not techinically required for all self-contained
changes, this strikes me as one that *does* require documentation in the
installation guide.
Bill
3:36 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 12:26 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
Provisioning =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman <dlehman(a)fedoraproject.org>
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability.
This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS
installation.
== Detailed description ==
Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic
partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage
configuration.
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
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3:59 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM
(Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult
external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding
all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need
more pressing.
4:13 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:59 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM
(Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult
external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding
all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need
more pressing.
Installation Options is basically the single most problematic part of
the entire anaconda newUI; this is just another problem to throw on the
gigantic pile, unfortunately...
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4:20 p.m.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters <walters(a)verbum.org> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM
(Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult
external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding
all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need
more pressing.
Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an option within
Manual Partitioning? I'm not finding a single source for the tradeoffs between regular
and thinp.
Does GRUB support LVM thinp? If not, Manual Partitioning shouldn't let the user put
/boot on LVM thinp. Current it does allow an all LVM installation, and it does work.
Chris Murphy
4:23 p.m.
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters <walters(a)verbum.org>
wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in
the
>> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>
> Exactly that - at the moment.
>
> However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
> tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM",
"LVM
> (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult
> external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding
> all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need
> more pressing.
Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an
option within Manual Partitioning?
Installation Options is a part of *both* paths.
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4:51 p.m.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters <walters(a)verbum.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in
the
>>> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>>
>> Exactly that - at the moment.
>>
>> However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
>> tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM",
"LVM
>> (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to
consult
>> external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding
>> all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need
>> more pressing.
>
> Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an
> option within Manual Partitioning?
Installation Options is a part of *both* paths.
It affects the defaults in Manual Partitioning, but it doesn't act as a limiter to
Manual Partitioning.
e.g. XFS nor RAID are in Installation Options; yet I can still use them in Manual
Partitioning regardless of how Installation Options is set.
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