1:55 p.m.
The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
mailing list).
-- Rex
_______________________________________________
Fedora-devel-announce mailing list
Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce
2:53 p.m.
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10
and
11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
mailing list).
Not that I'm an F-10 user, or a KDE user, but: F-10? Seriously?
- ajax
7:32 p.m.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Adam Jackson<ajax(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
> 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
> package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
> libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
>
> So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
> libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
> mailing list).
Not that I'm an F-10 user, or a KDE user, but: F-10? Seriously?
Ummm, wait a second, F-10 is still supported is it not?
/me is *seriously* confused by Ajax's comment.
7:56 p.m.
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 17:32 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Adam Jackson<ajax(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
>> 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
>> package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
>> libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
>>
>> So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
>> libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
>> mailing list).
>
> Not that I'm an F-10 user, or a KDE user, but: F-10? Seriously?
Ummm, wait a second, F-10 is still supported is it not?
/me is *seriously* confused by Ajax's comment.
It's supported, but there are those of us that feel that it shouldn't be
getting version updates, only bug fixes. Just going by the version
numbers, 4.2.4 to 4.3.0 seems like a fairly big jump. However it could
just be a bugfix rollup, it's hard to tell just by looking at version
numbers. The fact that there are warnings about abi issues would make
it seem a bit more than just bugfix updates.
--
Jesse Keating RHCE (http://jkeating.livejournal.com)
Fedora Project (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating)
GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
identi.ca (http://identi.ca/jkeating)
8:24 p.m.
Jesse Keating wrote:
It's supported, but there are those of us that feel that it
shouldn't be
getting version updates, only bug fixes. Just going by the version
numbers, 4.2.4 to 4.3.0 seems like a fairly big jump. However it could
just be a bugfix rollup, it's hard to tell just by looking at version
numbers. The fact that there are warnings about abi issues would make
it seem a bit more than just bugfix updates.
Rest assured, things are backward compatible, but not forward, ie, apps
compiled against kde-4.2.x run are fine on kde-4.3.x, just not necessarily
vice-versa. That's the abi issues we're warning about.
Further, this is a case where a vast majority of known bugfixes are found in
the version upgrade.
There are also other mitigating factors (upstream and downstream), but I'd
prefer this not be the time or place to go into that.
-- Rex
7:59 p.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Adam Jackson<ajax(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
>> 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
>> package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
>> libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
>>
>> So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
>> libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
>> mailing list).
>
> Not that I'm an F-10 user, or a KDE user, but: F-10? Seriously?
...
/me is *seriously* confused by Ajax's comment.
It's understandable, it's a release in the later stages of support, but at
this time, the sig strongly feels the best way to continue that support is
to follow through on our plan.
-- Rex
8:10 p.m.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Rex Dieter<rdieter(a)math.unl.edu> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Adam Jackson<ajax(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
>>> 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
>>> package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
>>> libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
>>>
>>> So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
>>> libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
>>> mailing list).
>>
>> Not that I'm an F-10 user, or a KDE user, but: F-10? Seriously?
...
> /me is *seriously* confused by Ajax's comment.
It's understandable, it's a release in the later stages of support, but at
this time, the sig strongly feels the best way to continue that support is
to follow through on our plan.
Okay, maybe it's just a confusion between RHEL and Fedora. Although I
think the version numbers are major.minor.bugfix or something and even
RHEL would allow an update for just a minor point release IIRC.
Anyway, its moot because this is Fedora we are talking about. I'm
glad you are going through with it. Awesome support from the KDE SIG!
Kudos!
5:04 a.m.
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:55:11PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10
and
11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
mailing list).
Can't you use a temporary build-tag-something to stage the 4.3 updates
seperated from the remaining packages to avoid breakge like this? This
happend also e.g. when everything was rebuild for Python 2.5 or
similiar.
Regards
Till
5:27 a.m.
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 12:04:21 Till Maas wrote:
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:55:11PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> The KDE SIG is now working on KDE-4.3.0-related builds for Fedora 10 and
> 11 candidate updates. As this requires some buildroot overrides, if your
> package uses KDE libraries, it may inadvertently build against KDE 4.3.0
> libraries and may, at least in some cases, NOT work with 4.2.4.
>
> So please either hold off on update builds for packages using KDE
> libraries or contact us (on the #fedora-kde IRC chan or the fedora-kde
> mailing list).
Can't you use a temporary build-tag-something to stage the 4.3 updates
seperated from the remaining packages to avoid breakge like this? This
happend also e.g. when everything was rebuild for Python 2.5 or
similiar.
+1 as it can cause (and it's causing) lot of problems...
Jaroslav
Regards
Till
--
Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik(a)redhat.com>
Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno
Office: +420 532 294 275
Mobile: +420 731 455 332
Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/
5389
days inactive
5390
days old
9 comments
7 participants
participants (7)
-
Adam Jackson -
Christopher Stone -
Jaroslav Reznik -
Jesse Keating -
Rex Dieter -
Thomas Janssen -
Till Maas