8:09 a.m.
The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with
konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox.
10:12 a.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem
to work with
konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox.
Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
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LG Thomas
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12:28 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with
> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox.
Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
Hmm. How to put this nicely...
Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't
properly support javascript, specifically, jquery.
See:
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725
http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility
~spot
2:29 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
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Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
>> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't
seem to
work with
>> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens.
Works
in firefox.
>
> Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
Hmm. How to put this nicely...
Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
I find it much nicer than
Firefox (integration with Firefox
is...umm...nonexistent here), but it's choice anyways. </flame-
war> (before one starts).
If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror
doesn't
properly support javascript, specifically, jquery.
See:
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725
http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility
~spot
If the Community devteam could file bugs against Konqueror and
then notify the KDE-SIG about them, we can track bugs and such.
Is there a test page somewhere (similar to ACID)? FWIW, 4.2.98
seems to be improved, but still not there. Arora is apparently
better to (from Rex, I don't use it).
- --Ben
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2:56 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
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Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
>> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't
seem to
work with
>> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens.
Works
in firefox.
>
> Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
Hmm. How to put this nicely...
Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror
doesn't
properly support javascript, specifically, jquery.
See:
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725
http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility
~spot
Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that
Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are:
31. core module: append(String|Element|Array<Element>|jQuery)
7. Check for appending text with spaces
137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple
with xml
3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run
197. fx module: Chain hide show
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
198. fx module: Chain show hide
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
199. fx module: Chain toggle in
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
200. fx module: Chain toggle out
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the
last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is
used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon
the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff
is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are
things that the test page doesn't test for).
- --Ben
[1] http://jquery.com/test
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10:55 a.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that
Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are:
31. core module: append(String|Element|Array<Element>|jQuery)
7. Check for appending text with spaces
137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple
with xml
3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run
197. fx module: Chain hide show
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
198. fx module: Chain show hide
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
199. fx module: Chain toggle in
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
200. fx module: Chain toggle out
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out
5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the
last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is
used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon
the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff
is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are
things that the test page doesn't test for).
- --Ben
[1] http://jquery.com/test
Filing Konqueror-related Fedora Community bugs at this time seems
pointless until this test suite passes. I spoke with the jQuery author
recently and Konqueror problems are completely off their radar. We need
some people who care about this browser to step up and work with jQuery
upstream to improve it.
luke
3:04 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/29/2009 01:28 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
of the two with no patches landed:
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
this one lacks a konqueror bug report, or at least link. at:
http://code.jquery.com/jquery-nightly.js
select box val() handling seems to be done at, search for:
// We need to handle select boxes special
Somebody who uses either of jquery or konqueror ought to file. Fedora
projects should support the browsers we ship when it's reasonable to do so.
I noticed Konqueror is supposed to emit JavaScript debugging on the
console, but none of the jquery test cases cause any such output.
-Bill
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10:58 a.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 04:04:23PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On 07/29/2009 01:28 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
of the two with no patches landed:
http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
this one lacks a konqueror bug report, or at least link. at:
http://code.jquery.com/jquery-nightly.js
select box val() handling seems to be done at, search for:
// We need to handle select boxes special
Somebody who uses either of jquery or konqueror ought to file. Fedora
projects should support the browsers we ship when it's reasonable to do so.
I noticed Konqueror is supposed to emit JavaScript debugging on the
console, but none of the jquery test cases cause any such output.
The last time I tested Konqueror with Fedora Community, it choked on
something like $f = $(f), where f is an html fragment. I couldn't
figure out how to make the debugger useful though.
luke
8:15 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/30/2009 11:58 AM, Luke Macken wrote:
The last time I tested Konqueror with Fedora Community, it choked on
something like $f = $(f), where f is an html fragment.
Did you file a bug on Konqueror?
-Bill
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3:09 p.m.
New subject: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
2009/7/29 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com>:
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com>:
>> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with
>> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox.
>
> Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
Hmm. How to put this nicely...
Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
I do, i use chromium ;P Thanks by the way for your repo, much appreciated.
I just confirmed it for the OP so he knows it really doesn't work and
is no missconfiguration on his side.
--
LG Thomas
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