6:45 a.m.
I'm sorry for asking what you may think is a total newbie question, but
my inability to reliably get pictures off my camera has reached comical
proportions at this point. In the last few years, I've gone through
permutations of three different motherboards, three different CF
readers, and some subset of RH8, RH9, FC2, and FC3, and to this day, the
best way I've found to get pictures off my camera's card has been "plug
it into my girlfriend's mac, and use scp."
So here is my question:
Are any of you running FC3 and able to get pictures off of a
CompactFlash card at USB-2 speeds? If so, what CF reader are
you using? Because I want to go out and buy one of those.
The set of readers I have tried recently are:
- Dazzle USB 2.0 reader, no model number apparent;
- SanDisk ImageMate SDDR-31 USB 1.0 reader;
- (another USB 1.0 reader that I don't have here at the
moment, but that came with my Canon 10-D camera).
All of them do this when I plug them in (card present or not):
usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using address 52
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 52, error -71
usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using address 53
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 53, error -71
Both ehci-hcd and uhci_hcd get loaded. This is after installing
davidz's newly-non-broken version of hald (bug 142183).
The Dazzle doesn't work at all on an OSX Mac, but the other two do.
I have, at various times, seen all three of these work eratically on
previous versions of Linux, though I think the last time was FC2.
I have, in fact, seen the Dazzle work at USB-2 speeds, but not lately.
"Eratically" means that generally they would work immediately after
I rebooted the machine, and I could plug/unplug them right after
that, and they'd continue working; but if I tried to use them again
a few hours later, the only way to make them work would be to reboot
again. No amount of rmmod would bring joy (though some would bring
complete wedgedness.)
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7:47 a.m.
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
I'm sorry for asking what you may think is a total newbie
question, but
my inability to reliably get pictures off my camera has reached comical
proportions at this point. In the last few years, I've gone through
permutations of three different motherboards, three different CF
readers, and some subset of RH8, RH9, FC2, and FC3, and to this day, the
best way I've found to get pictures off my camera's card has been "plug
it into my girlfriend's mac, and use scp."
This is exactly the same experience I have, even including the
"girlfriend's mac" bit.
I have an lexar usb-2 reader and a nikon coolpix 5400. I always blamed
it on the motherboard, but it seems i am not alone.
christof
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Christof Damian
christof(a)damian.net
8:39 a.m.
Jamie Zawinski wrote:
I'm sorry for asking what you may think is a total newbie
question, but
my inability to reliably get pictures off my camera has reached comical
proportions at this point. In the last few years, I've gone through
permutations of three different motherboards, three different CF
readers, and some subset of RH8, RH9, FC2, and FC3, and to this day, the
best way I've found to get pictures off my camera's card has been "plug
it into my girlfriend's mac, and use scp."
So here is my question:
Are any of you running FC3 and able to get pictures off of a
CompactFlash card at USB-2 speeds? If so, what CF reader are you
using? Because
I want to go out and buy one of those.
Hi Jamie,
I happen to have Belkin CF card reader
(http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Secti...)
that works without problems. It's USB 1.1 so not too fast. Works with RH
9, Fedora Core 2 and 3.
My motherboard is Epox 8KHA+ with latest BIOS -- I had to update BIOS
because when the card reader was plugged in during reboot and a CF card
was in, BIOS hanged. Had to remove flash card and reboot again. No
problem after BIOS upgrade.
Regards,
Dariusz
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Dariusz J. Garbowski
9:08 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 02:39:54PM +0000, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote:
I happen to have Belkin CF card reader
I'm using a mix of Scan (ie no-name Chinese import) and a couple of other USB
readers without problems.
My motherboard is Epox 8KHA+ with latest BIOS -- I had to update BIOS
because when the card reader was plugged in during reboot and a CF card
was in, BIOS hanged. Had to remove flash card and reboot again. No
problem after BIOS upgrade.
Very common, especially with USB2 capable devices and older boards. One
to beware of before buying a USB keyboard with "neat" MMC/SD or CF slot in it
10:59 a.m.
On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 04:45 -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
"Eratically" means that generally they would work
immediately after
I rebooted the machine, and I could plug/unplug them right after
that, and they'd continue working; but if I tried to use them again
a few hours later, the only way to make them work would be to reboot
again. No amount of rmmod would bring joy (though some would bring
complete wedgedness.)
USB devices definitely have flaky drivers. 2.6.9-1.1049_FC4 (running on
FC3) is going a bit better for me but I still got it to oops. However,
FC3 kernels would reliably oops every time you unplugged a CD drive. Now
it seems I have to do something trickier (like unplug a mounted hard
drive).
I'm hoping that since all the stuff is there now for people to easily
plug and unplug and have things work automatically, the driver bugs will
get more visibility and fixage.
Havoc
11:10 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 11:59:58AM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
USB devices definitely have flaky drivers. 2.6.9-1.1049_FC4 (running
on
FC3) is going a bit better for me but I still got it to oops. However,
FC3 kernels would reliably oops every time you unplugged a CD drive. Now
it seems I have to do something trickier (like unplug a mounted hard
drive).
2.6.10 is much much better. The changes were rather tricky to backport in
full however.
5:18 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 04:45 -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
[snip]
So here is my question:
Are any of you running FC3 and able to get pictures off of a
CompactFlash card at USB-2 speeds? If so, what CF reader are
you using? Because I want to go out and buy one of those.
Okay, I just did a quick test since I don't use mine that often. I'm
getting about 2.6MBytes/sec with my 7-in-1 reader which probably does
mean I'm getting USB 2.0 speeds. The brand is Syntax, model number is
UCR-61. I got it at http://www.allstarshop.com/ probably about a year
ago. Sadly, I don't see it there anymore. If I find it anywhere else
(I'm looking to buy one of those 7-in-1/floppy combos soon, so I'll keep
an eye out for it) I'll let you know.
--
-Paul Iadonisi
Senior System Administrator
Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist
Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux.
GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets
5:37 p.m.
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 04:45:58AM -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
All of them do this when I plug them in (card present or not):
usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using address 52
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 52, error -71
usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using address 53
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 53, error -71
Trivia for the day:
If you trigger enough -71 errors (I think a little over 100, if memory
serves), the kernel that ships with Fedora Core 2 oopses. It got fixed
in one of the update kernels. I have no idea whether it was fixed
accidentally or on purpose, however.
[snip]
"Eratically" means that generally they would work
immediately after
I rebooted the machine, and I could plug/unplug them right after
that, and they'd continue working; but if I tried to use them again
a few hours later, the only way to make them work would be to reboot
again. No amount of rmmod would bring joy (though some would bring
complete wedgedness.)
What happens if you run Windows XP instead of Linux? WinXP has a weird
little message that pops up near the lower-right corner of the screen,
when it runs into the equivalent of Linux's -71 errors (something about
device failure or something like that, I think). In fact, if you're
consistently getting two -71 errors under Linux, you might see the
message appear, quickly disappear, then quickly reappear again under
Windows. If you're getting a stream of -71 errors, then the Windows
error may appear and disappear intermittently, perhaps in an attempt
to drive you mad. ;)
BTW, even if the card readers seem to work initially under Windows, the
same falls-apart-after-a-few-hours behavior that you're seeing under
Linux could also happen under Windows.
(I've only seen a -71 error situation once. In that case, the Windows
equivalent happened too, and IIRC the computer's manufacturer decided to
replace the motherboard.)
-Barry K. Nathan <barryn(a)pobox.com>
6:01 p.m.
Barry K. Nathan wrote:
What happens if you run Windows XP instead of Linux?
I dunno, my head explodes? None of my machines have ever had
Windows on them.
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3:48 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 04:01:06PM -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
Barry K. Nathan wrote:
>
> What happens if you run Windows XP instead of Linux?
I dunno, my head explodes? None of my machines have ever had
Windows on them.
Oh, ok... In that case, what happens if you try one of the *BSD's? (That
way you would at least be able to tell whether the problem is
Linux-specific.)
-Barry K. Nathan <barryn(a)pobox.com>
7:19 a.m.
New subject: /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam - console.lock
Couldn't find if anyone had posted this in the devel list but thought it
was worth a mention if someone wants to fix it ( if it is indeed an
oversight in the usbcam file ? )
I had been experiencing problems retrieving files off a digital camera
( kodak 3400 ) as a normal user, tried root which worked fine.
Turns out a minor change in the usbcam file fixes it. ( thanks to
someone on the gphoto2-devel list )
if [ -f /var/run/console.lock ]
then
CONSOLEOWNER=`cat /var/run/console.lock`
elif [ -f /var/lock/console.lock ]
then
CONSOLEOWNER=`cat /var/lock/console.lock`
else
CONSOLEOWNER=
fi
Changes to
if [ -f /var/run/console.lock ]
then
CONSOLEOWNER=`cat /var/run/console.lock`
elif [ -f /var/run/console/console.lock ]
then
CONSOLEOWNER=`cat /var/run/console/console.lock`
elif [ -f /var/lock/console.lock ]
then
CONSOLEOWNER=`cat /var/lock/console.lock`
else
CONSOLEOWNER=
fi
4:57 a.m.
New subject: /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam - console.lock
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:19:35AM +1100, Phantom wrote:
Couldn't find if anyone had posted this in the devel list but
thought it
was worth a mention if someone wants to fix it ( if it is indeed an
oversight in the usbcam file ? )
Please report a bug in bugzilla about this.
Turns out a minor change in the usbcam file fixes it.
The change you mention doesn't seem to apply to the usbcam file we
ship, as far as I can tell.
Please report a bug in bugzilla so that this issue can be tracked
properly and we can get to the bottom of it.
Tim.
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