i18n-bugs March 2015

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 --- Comment #48 from Carlos O'Donell <codonell(a)redhat.com> --- (In reply to Edgar Hoch from comment #47) > So I think the rpm *install script should not call build-locale-archive, but > locale-archive should only contain the minimum locales and glibc should > search for other locales in other language dependent locale files. I general I agree. However, if you read the context above you'll notice that this solution as presented today is a "workaround" for small cloud images and containers. It is not intended as a final solution. The final solution includes splitting all locale data out of glibc-common into subpackages that include fixed locale data. That way you can install "English" or "German" locales and get all the en_* and de_* locales with their various character maps. In such a final solution we would transition the system using a utility that looks at the value of %_install_langs and installs the required subpackages to match what you already have on your system. Most users will never change any of this and have it remain "all" which means you continue to get all of the loales, and in the future, all of the locale subpakcages. After the transition we would probably allow the user to use the utility to change their set of installed langauges, or simply get rid of the utility and have them manage the locale packages themselves. We don't know exactly what we're going to do here, and it's an open question. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=8gCetSG9zH&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 --- Comment #47 from Edgar Hoch <edgar.hoch(a)ims.uni-stuttgart.de> --- (In reply to Carlos O'Donell from comment #45) > (In reply to Panu Matilainen from comment #44) > > Um, one should *never* modify /usr/lib/rpm/macros, that's a "factory config" > > setting and any changes will be overwritten on rpm upgrades. Local settings > > go into /etc/rpm files. > > Agreed. Which is why I asked Edgar Hoch to file a new bug for rpm if it > wasn't already solvable. I expect it is simply by setting the macros in > /etc/rpm. I was thinking about the problem. I came to the result that if a package is installed the files in /usr/... should be always the same for the same package, on every system. The locale data file is not a configuration file, it is a data file. Data files should not change while they are installed. I would never expect that I have to reinstall a package if I would need more locales (languages). It should be predefined what a package provides and what not. I think a reasonable solution would be to provide only the minimum of locales with the basic glibc package and to create additional (dependent) packages for each locale (as the exist for other packages, for example libreoffice, aspell, etc.). This language packages can be handled in the usual way by yum, dnf, etc. So I think the rpm *install script should not call build-locale-archive, but locale-archive should only contain the minimum locales and glibc should search for other locales in other language dependent locale files. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=RAFZ9c5UOu&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 --- Comment #46 from Miroslav Suchý <msuchy(a)redhat.com> --- >As for how I ended up in this bug... this change broke copr. I dont know what >ancient OS it runs on, perhaps RHEL-6 Yes. ancient EL6. We plan to move to Fedora21 in one month. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=NVFqUBtxy7&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 Carlos O'Donell <codonell(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE |--- Flags| |needinfo?(mfabian(a)redhat.co | |m) --- Comment #45 from Carlos O'Donell <codonell(a)redhat.com> --- (In reply to Panu Matilainen from comment #44) > Um, one should *never* modify /usr/lib/rpm/macros, that's a "factory config" > setting and any changes will be overwritten on rpm upgrades. Local settings > go into /etc/rpm files. Agreed. Which is why I asked Edgar Hoch to file a new bug for rpm if it wasn't already solvable. I expect it is simply by setting the macros in /etc/rpm. > As for how I ended up in this bug... this change broke copr. I dont know > what ancient OS it runs on, perhaps RHEL-6, but the rpm there doesn't > support scriptlet expansion so glibc, and thus everything, is uninstallable > now due to: > DEBUG util.py:388: ERROR You need to update rpm to handle: > DEBUG util.py:388: rpmlib(ScriptletExpansion) <= 4.9.0-1 is needed by > glibc-common-2.21.90-5.fc23.x86_64 I'm really sorry about that, that was an unforseen consquence, but the truth is that Rawhide will continue to move forward picking up features, either it happens now or it happens later. > Mostly this is really copr's headache, not yours, but in this case there's > no actual need to use scriptlet expansion, because from lua you can always > expand macros. Something like this (and the same for the triggerin) would > avoid the rpmlib dependency without affecting the functionality: > > -%post common -e -p <lua> > +%post common -p <lua> > if posix.access("/etc/ld.so.cache") then > if posix.stat("%{_prefix}/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl", "size") > 0 > then > pid = posix.fork() > if pid == 0 then > - posix.exec("%{_prefix}/sbin/build-locale-archive", "--install-langs", > "%%{_install_langs}") > + posix.exec("%{_prefix}/sbin/build-locale-archive", "--install-langs", > rpm.expand("%%{_install_langs}")) > elseif pid > 0 then > posix.wait(pid) > end I believe we tried this before but it had some negative consequences. I'm going to ask Fabian to comment and test it out. Mike, Do you remember if we talked about using rpm.expand and then didn't? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=bd65teC4SS&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |pmatilai(a)redhat.com --- Comment #44 from Panu Matilainen <pmatilai(a)redhat.com> --- Um, one should *never* modify /usr/lib/rpm/macros, that's a "factory config" setting and any changes will be overwritten on rpm upgrades. Local settings go into /etc/rpm files. As for how I ended up in this bug... this change broke copr. I dont know what ancient OS it runs on, perhaps RHEL-6, but the rpm there doesn't support scriptlet expansion so glibc, and thus everything, is uninstallable now due to: DEBUG util.py:388: ERROR You need to update rpm to handle: DEBUG util.py:388: rpmlib(ScriptletExpansion) <= 4.9.0-1 is needed by glibc-common-2.21.90-5.fc23.x86_64 Mostly this is really copr's headache, not yours, but in this case there's no actual need to use scriptlet expansion, because from lua you can always expand macros. Something like this (and the same for the triggerin) would avoid the rpmlib dependency without affecting the functionality: -%post common -e -p <lua> +%post common -p <lua> if posix.access("/etc/ld.so.cache") then if posix.stat("%{_prefix}/lib/locale/locale-archive.tmpl", "size") > 0 then pid = posix.fork() if pid == 0 then - posix.exec("%{_prefix}/sbin/build-locale-archive", "--install-langs", "%%{_install_langs}") + posix.exec("%{_prefix}/sbin/build-locale-archive", "--install-langs", rpm.expand("%%{_install_langs}")) elseif pid > 0 then posix.wait(pid) end -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=x4TUaISQ58&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1160741] Fedora 21Beta 2 Keyboard display error outstanding since Fedora 18
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160741 Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In Version| |xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.9.1-2. | |fc21 Resolution|--- |ERRATA Last Closed| |2015-03-09 04:16:21 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> --- xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.9.1-2.fc21 has been pushed to the Fedora 21 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=reOI6sFwxc&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1079090] Review Request: layla-fonts - A collection of traditional Arabic fonts
by Red Hat Bugzilla 08 Mar '15

08 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079090 Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fixed In Version|layla-fonts-1.4-1.el7 |layla-fonts-1.4-1.el6 --- Comment #52 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> --- layla-fonts-1.4-1.el6 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 6 stable repository. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=IVAyiW5UbU&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1079090] Review Request: layla-fonts - A collection of traditional Arabic fonts
by Red Hat Bugzilla 08 Mar '15

08 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079090 Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fixed In Version|layla-fonts-1.4-1.fc20 |layla-fonts-1.4-1.el7 --- Comment #51 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> --- layla-fonts-1.4-1.el7 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 7 stable repository. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=qpCkPYAvGn&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1150394] Please update I18n Documentation Beat for Fedora 21
by Red Hat Bugzilla 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1150394 Pete Travis <me(a)petetravis.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|MODIFIED |CLOSED Resolution|--- |CURRENTRELEASE Last Closed| |2015-03-05 18:51:06 --- Comment #4 from Pete Travis <me(a)petetravis.com> --- This is done. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=l3xx0aI7dK&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 156477] RFE: option to reduce disk usage of /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive by only installing required language
by Red Hat Bugzilla 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 --- Comment #43 from Carlos O'Donell <codonell(a)redhat.com> --- (In reply to Edgar Hoch from comment #42) > (In reply to Carlos O'Donell from comment #41) > > Maintaining the minimum set of installed locales requires modifying > > /usr/lib/rpm/macros `%_install_langs`. > > > > Reinstalling the missing locales you want requires reinstalling glibc-common > > with an updated value for `%_install_langs`. > > Wouldn't it be better to put a file in /etc/rpm/ which sets (overwrites) the > value of `%_install_langs` instead of modifying the global config file > /usr/lib/rpm/macros, _and_ requiring reinstalling glibc-common? > > I think that files in /usr/ should never contain a host-specific > configuration. I agree, but that's a decision RPM has to make. glibc is simply following whatever value is provided by rpm in %_install_langs. File another bug? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=NhgSLVjWbC&a=cc_unsubscribe

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