Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2012-12-12
by Jon
===================================================
#fedora-meeting-1: Weekly Fedora ARM status meeting
===================================================
Meeting started by jonmasters at 21:00:33 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-12-12/fedora-meeti...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* 0. Additional agenda items (jonmasters, 21:03:08)
* 1. Current Problem packages (jonmasters, 21:04:03)
* 2). F18 Beta status (jonmasters, 21:12:20)
* 3). Ownership of non-release blocking images (BeagleBoard-xM, etc.)
(jonmasters, 21:18:39)
* ACTION: bconoboy to make nightly images including kirkwood and
beagleboard-xm. community to test. (bconoboy, 21:24:38)
* 4) F18 and kernel VFADs planning (jonmasters, 21:25:56)
* ACTION: jonmasters or pwhalen to run Friday VFAD (bconoboy,
21:27:50)
* ACTION: jonmasters to schedule kernel vfad later. date TBD
(bconoboy, 21:31:49)
* ACTION: jonmasters to send email about kernel VFAD on Wed 2012-12-19
(jonmasters, 21:33:36)
* 2.1) ARMv6 initial build feedback (jonmasters, 21:35:27)
* ACTION: ctyler to provide preliminiary benchmarks showing
differences between v5tel and v6hl builds on rpi next week using
valid benchmarks in the fedora package set (bconoboy, 21:56:22)
* 5) Your topic here (jonmasters, 21:59:25)
* FUDCON: jonmasters, bconoboy, ctyler, masta to attend (bconoboy,
22:01:02)
Meeting ended at 22:02:24 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* bconoboy to make nightly images including kirkwood and beagleboard-xm.
community to test.
* jonmasters or pwhalen to run Friday VFAD
* jonmasters to schedule kernel vfad later. date TBD
* jonmasters to send email about kernel VFAD on Wed 2012-12-19
* ctyler to provide preliminiary benchmarks showing differences between
v5tel and v6hl builds on rpi next week using valid benchmarks in the
fedora package set
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bconoboy
* bconoboy to make nightly images including kirkwood and
beagleboard-xm. community to test.
* ctyler
* ctyler to provide preliminiary benchmarks showing differences
between v5tel and v6hl builds on rpi next week using valid
benchmarks in the fedora package set
* jonmasters
* jonmasters or pwhalen to run Friday VFAD
* jonmasters to schedule kernel vfad later. date TBD
* jonmasters to send email about kernel VFAD on Wed 2012-12-19
* pwhalen
* jonmasters or pwhalen to run Friday VFAD
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jonmasters (89)
* ctyler (41)
* bconoboy (39)
* pbrobinson (23)
* dmarlin (19)
* masta (11)
* zodbot (9)
* fossjon (9)
* jcapik (7)
* nirik (4)
* Frojoe (3)
* kwizart (3)
* pwhalen (0)
* dgilmore (0)
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11 years, 4 months
Fedora Board Recap 2012-12-12
by inode0
== Attendance ==
Present:
* Jaroslav Reznik
* John Rose
* Eric Christensen
* Peter Robinson
* Toshio Kuratomi
* Robyn Bergeron
* Garrett Holmstrom
Absent:
* Christoph Wickert
* David Nalley
* Nick Bebout
Today's lucky secretary: John Rose
== Minutes ==
=== Announcements ===
* Final Change Deadline on 2012-12-11, GA is still planned for 2013-01-08
* Cobbler's funding drive was successful.
=== CWG Nominee Status ===
* The CWG has now been formed and will begin working toward its goals.
=== Ticket #151 - Election email not widespread ===
* Suggestion that official announcements go to the main announce list
and be posted on the election page on the wiki. If those controlling
other mailing lists want to ensure that the announcements reach those
lists they should consider subscribing them to the main announce list.
People involved in promoting elections will continue to strive for
broad coverage on mailing lists, social media, etc.
=== Secure Boot Update ===
* General information about progress in this effort.
=== Spins Approval ===
* Clarify the description of the Board's involvement in spin
"approval" on the spin's wiki page.
== Next Board Meeting: IRC, 2012-12-19 ==
11 years, 4 months
Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-12-12 @ 17:00 UTC - F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #4
by Tim Flink
=============================================
#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-4
=============================================
We still haven't gotten to the NTH bugs due to the number of blockers
to review. There will be a NTH bug review meeting in the next week - exact
time/date TBD.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-bl...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-bl...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-bl...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:30)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:13:22)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:13:27)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:13:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:13:33)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:13:39)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:13:39)
* note that due to the length of the current blocker list, we'll be
working off the bugs marked for discussion at: (tflink, 17:14:05)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:14:20)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:14:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:14:32)
* 24 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 21 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 35 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 6 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:15:43)
* 12 proposed blockers ready for discussion (tflink, 17:15:58)
* (885284) grub is not installed in an all defaults autopart
installation, system not bootable (tflink, 17:17:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885284 (tflink,
17:17:08)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:17:11)
* AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to
any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on
the first boot after installation, without unintended user
intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in
non-graphical mode..." (tflink, 17:22:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879046 (tflink,
17:23:00)
* Proposed Blocker, mactel-boot, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:23:02)
* AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion for Apple hardware: "In most cases, a system
installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the
'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without
unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to
boot in non-graphical mode...". (tflink, 17:37:47)
* (866887) Anaconda defaults keyboard layout to US for all languages
(tflink, 17:37:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887 (tflink,
17:37:58)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:38:01)
* AGREED: 866887 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't
directly violate any of the F18 release criteria, it is a
non-obvious annoyance for users of non-US keyboards. A tested fix
would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:43:46)
* (886061) core fedora repository error must be fatal, otherwise the
upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink, 17:44:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink,
17:44:48)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:44:51)
* AGREED: 886061 - This sounds like a blocker but we'd like to get
more developer input before making a decision on blocker status
(tflink, 17:58:23)
* (886319) ImportError: No module named lib.space (tflink, 17:58:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886319 (tflink,
17:58:34)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:58:34)
* AGREED: 886319 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
release criterion: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run
on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that
are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and
boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when
written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported
methods" (tflink, 18:02:28)
* (886199) mokutil calculates incorrect signature size (tflink,
18:02:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886199 (tflink,
18:02:43)
* Proposed Blocker, shim, NEW (tflink, 18:02:43)
* AGREED: 886199 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't viiolate
any F18 release criteria but would be better to pull in before
release in case secureboot is affected. A tested fix would be
considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:13:10)
* (885912) Final-TC1 Auto Partition will not produce working Dual Boot
(tflink, 18:13:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885912 (tflink,
18:13:20)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:13:23)
* ACTION: adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can
reproduce and identify the trigger (adamw, 18:26:00)
* AGREED: 885912 - It isn't completely clear what is causing this
issue and depending on the details, this may or may not be a
blocker. Will revisit when more information is available. (tflink,
18:26:49)
* (853636) poor checking of storage config against software set space
needs (tflink, 18:27:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853636 (tflink,
18:27:04)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:27:06)
* AGREED: 853636 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
release criterion for partitions too small for installation: "The
installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the
following ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations without
crashing" (tflink, 18:33:51)
* (869978) %packages --default doesn't install default system, but
minimal one (tflink, 18:36:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869978 (tflink,
18:36:16)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:36:18)
* AGREED: 869978 - AcceptedBlocker - While there is no specific
criterion for kickstart directives for F18, they are being decided
on a case-by-case basis - this bug was determined to be
common/serious enough to justify release blocking status. (tflink,
18:42:47)
* (885853) systemd-upgrade.target is copied to the upgraded system,
rendering it unbootable (tflink, 18:42:54)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853 (tflink,
18:42:57)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, NEW (tflink, 18:43:01)
* AGREED: 885853 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem likely to
impact many real world systems and it is workaround-able in the
worst case. Not severe enough to justify release blocking status but
it should at least be documented as a commonbug (tflink, 18:50:40)
* (884833) exiting from advanced user creation program in firstboot
breaks firstboot (tflink, 18:50:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884833 (tflink,
18:51:02)
* Proposed Blocker, firstboot, NEW (tflink, 18:51:05)
* AGREED: 884833 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior existed in F17 and
wasn't a huge problem. It seems like too much of a corner case to
block release over for F18 final. NTH status would be considered
depending on the size/impact of the fix. (tflink, 19:34:52)
* (854904) Quitting Anaconda in LiveCD reboots machine (tflink,
19:36:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854904 (tflink,
19:36:13)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:36:13)
* AGREED: 854904 - AcceptedNTH - This is an annoyance that would be
nice to fix but can't be fixed with an update. A tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:39:45)
* (854722) autologin doesn't work in GDM (tflink, 19:39:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854722 (tflink,
19:39:50)
* Proposed NTH, gdm, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:39:50)
* AGREED: 854722 - AcceptedNTH - autologin on live images is the
intended behavior and can't be fixed with an update post-release. A
tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:43:25)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:44:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (adamw,
19:46:50)
* (856456) Anaconda no longer has option to set hostname in UI
(tflink, 19:49:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (tflink,
19:49:23)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:49:23)
* AGREED: 856456 - AcceptedNTH - This is a change in functionality
from F17 that many users expect and can't be fixed with an update
post-release. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 19:53:05)
* Open Floor (part 2) (tflink, 19:53:29)
* There will be an NTH review meeting at some point in the next week,
time TBD (tflink, 20:11:31)
* ACTION: tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input
on whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final (tflink,
20:12:51)
Meeting ended at 20:14:15 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce and
identify the trigger
* tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on whether
or not a fix is even practical for F18 final
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce
and identify the trigger
* tflink
* tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on
whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tflink (280)
* adamw (241)
* kparal (190)
* Viking-Ice (99)
* jreznik (36)
* buggbot (19)
* pjones (7)
* zodbot (7)
* nirik (2)
* satellit (2)
* jwb (1)
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11 years, 4 months
FAmNA Meeting Minutes (11 December 2012)
by Sarah White
==============================
#fedora-meeting: FAmNA Meeting
==============================
Meeting started by graphite6 at 01:59:18 UTC. The full logs are
available at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-12/famna.2012-12-...
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-12/famna.2012-12-...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-12/famna.2012-12-...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (graphite6, 01:59:40)
* Announcements (graphite6, 02:03:39)
* FAmSCo would like to encourage you to organize release parties in
your city, university, etc... (graphite6, 02:03:51)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events (graphite6,
02:04:02)
* LINK:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-December/020597...
(graphite6, 02:04:14)
* Tickets (graphite6, 02:06:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (graphite6,
02:06:43)
* 2012 Fedora Merchandise Order (graphite6, 02:07:20)
* inode0 waiting on T-shirt price update because we were under budget
(graphite6, 02:11:07)
* Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA) (graphite6, 02:12:05)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013
(graphite6, 02:12:11)
* LINK:
http://ii.figis.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/figis//source/fourmo...
(inode0, 02:13:02)
* ACTION: Update your travel plans on the wikipage if you're attending
FADNA (graphite6, 02:18:08)
* IDEA: will there be a presentation package available for review for
those who cannot attend FADNA? (graphite6, 02:20:25)
* ACTION: graphite6 will confirm FADNA room and ask Ruth for the
details and put them on the wikipage (graphite6, 02:24:06)
* ACTION: video equipment will be available during FADNA - what do we
want to document? put your ideas on the FADNA wikipage (graphite6,
02:32:50)
* FAmNA Reimbursement Guidelines (graphite6, 02:34:18)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines
(graphite6, 02:34:26)
* AGREED: close ticket #45 (graphite6, 02:36:44)
* New Events for Fedora participation (graphite6, 02:37:08)
* IDEA: Should FAmNA consider expanding outreach activities to
conferences/events where the audience may not be familiar with
Fedora's capabilities in their area of interest? (graphite6,
02:37:29)
* IDEA: Are there conferences or events in any of following categories
that you think Fedora should consider sponsoring, attending, sending
swag to, just keeping on our radar, etc.? (graphite6, 02:37:38)
* the long list of categories is in the ticket (graphite6, 02:37:55)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/47 (graphite6,
02:38:12)
* kk4ewt has been doing Fedora demos at a couple of Sci-fi cons
(graphite6, 02:41:21)
* IDEA: would fedora be popular at hamfests? (graphite6, 02:41:49)
* IDEA: Fedora at FreedomFest (graphite6, 02:43:30)
* LINK: http://freedomfest.com/ (inode0, 02:43:46)
* IDEA: Fedora at comiccons (graphite6, 02:44:19)
* IDEA: Fedora at Velocity (graphite6, 02:50:33)
* IDEA: Fedora at DevOpsDays (graphite6, 02:50:47)
* IDEA: Fedora at Ignite (graphite6, 02:51:49)
* Open Floor (graphite6, 02:54:31)
* ACTION: Need meeting leader for next week's meeting (graphite6,
03:04:58)
Meeting ended at 03:05:03 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Update your travel plans on the wikipage if you're attending FADNA
* graphite6 will confirm FADNA room and ask Ruth for the details and put
them on the wikipage
* video equipment will be available during FADNA - what do we want to
document? put your ideas on the FADNA wikipage
* Need meeting leader for next week's meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* graphite6
* graphite6 will confirm FADNA room and ask Ruth for the details and
put them on the wikipage
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Update your travel plans on the wikipage if you're attending FADNA
* video equipment will be available during FADNA - what do we want to
document? put your ideas on the FADNA wikipage
* Need meeting leader for next week's meeting
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* graphite6 (95)
* inode0 (35)
* award3535 (27)
* rbergeron (17)
* nb (14)
* zodbot (12)
* kk4ewt (8)
* chanchito (4)
* nb-- (3)
* tuanta (1)
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11 years, 4 months
2012-12-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting: Blocker Review Minutes
by Tim Flink
=============================================
#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-3
=============================================
The review meeting today spawned out of the QA meeting earlier today
instead of doing our usual mini-review, so there was no separate
announcement.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-bl...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-bl...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-bl...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:13:22)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:16:12)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:16:18)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:16:23)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:16:23)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:16:29)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:16:29)
* note that due to the number of currently proposed blockers, the list
is currently being filtered for bugs which are ready for discussion
(tflink, 17:16:57)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:17:23)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:17:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:17:35)
* the current full list of blocker/nth bugs is at: (tflink, 17:18:04)
* 28 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 14 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 26 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:18:10)
* 3 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:18:10)
* the list of bugs ready for discussion is at: (tflink, 17:18:23)
* 16 Proposed Blockers deemed ready for discussion (tflink, 17:18:36)
* (885378) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'
(tflink, 17:19:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885378 (tflink,
17:19:26)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:19:28)
* AGREED: 885378 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for reuse of encrypted LVM layouts: "The installer
must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout
using any file system offered in a default installer configuration,
LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above"
(tflink, 17:28:50)
* (885124) Notifications stays after clicking on 'x' button (tflink,
17:29:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885124 (tflink,
17:29:02)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:29:02)
* AGREED: 885124 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
polish issue with the default interface, there are workarounds and
it does not seem to be enough to block release over. Accepted as NTH
for F18 final and a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 17:40:11)
* (866887) the default keyboard layout isn't comfortable with the
selected language (tflink, 17:40:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887 (tflink,
17:40:24)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:40:26)
* it sounds like we are missing some info on this bug, will re-visit
when more information is available (tflink, 17:45:07)
* (885641) partitioning: Continue says I don't have enough space, Done
says I do (tflink, 17:45:44)
* ACTION: kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary
on wednesday. also ping jreznik (kparal, 17:45:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885641 (tflink,
17:45:47)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:45:50)
* LINK: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Error_Msg-Disk_too_small.png
also (satellit_, 18:08:15)
* AGREED: 885641 - AcceptedNTH - While this is a bad way for the
installer to fail, it's not clear whether or not it's actually a
blocker. Accepted as NTH, blocker status will be revisited when more
info is available. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 18:10:55)
* (885090) Inconsistent locations of font files on UEFI systems
(tflink, 18:11:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885090 (tflink,
18:11:06)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (tflink, 18:11:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 is one of
them (tflink, 18:12:19)
* AGREED: 885090 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This isn't serious
enough by itself to warrent blocker status for F18 final but it
would be nice to have correct fonts for release. A tested fix would
be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:29:28)
* (859632) gfxterm hangs when editing boot entries with large font
(tflink, 18:29:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 (tflink,
18:29:37)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:29:40)
* AGREED: 859632 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Even though this is
an actual hang in grub, it is too much of a corner case to block
release for. However, a tested fix would be considered after freeze.
(tflink, 18:56:58)
* (880271) Wrong keyboard layout in initramdisk (tflink, 18:57:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880271 (tflink,
18:57:15)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:57:16)
* AGREED: 880271 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for non-US keymaps: "For each
one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to
successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation
of the previous stable Fedora release with that package set
installed, using all officially recommended upgrade mechanisms. The
upgraded system must meet all release criteria" (tflink, 19:03:33)
* (869584) ibus menu in kde panel does not work, disappears immediately
(tflink, 19:03:39)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869584 (tflink,
19:03:42)
* Proposed Blocker, ibus, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:03:45)
* AGREED: 869584 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for asian language users of
KDE: "ll elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration
in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in common
use" (tflink, 19:13:36)
* (885133) no notification when unmounting external HDDs and data are
still not synced (tflink, 19:13:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885133 (tflink,
19:13:50)
* Proposed Blocker, gvfs, NEW (tflink, 19:13:52)
* AGREED: 885133 - AcceptedBlocker - Accepted due to conditional
violation of the following F18 final release criteria for external
hard drives: "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data
must be fixed or documented at Common F18 bugs" (tflink, 19:21:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885147 (tflink,
19:21:35)
* Proposed Blocker, system-config-users, NEW (tflink, 19:21:38)
* AGREED: 885133 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
technical violation of "All elements of the default panel (or
equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
function correctly in common use", it could be fixed with an update,
isn't likely to affect livecds and can be worked around by editing
the user instead of the group. (tflink, 19:29:18)
* (885279) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
'startswith' (tflink, 19:29:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885279 (tflink,
19:29:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:29:34)
* AGREED: 885279 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for adding a swap partition in custom
partitioning: "The installer must be able to create and install to
any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a
default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS
RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 19:32:52)
* (884896) DiskException: no partition specified (tflink, 19:32:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884896 (tflink,
19:33:00)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:33:02)
* AGREED: 884896 - We need more information on exactly what the
trigger for this bug is before deciding on blocker status, will
re-visit when there is more info (tflink, 19:38:31)
* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta (tflink,
19:38:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722 (tflink,
19:38:47)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:38:47)
* AGREED: 882722 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 final release criterion for reuse of encrypted VGs:
"The installer must be able to create and install to any workable
partition layout using any file system offered in a default
installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or
combination of the above" (tflink, 19:46:18)
* (884660) Anaconda fails to load on machines with multiple NICs
(tflink, 19:46:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884660 (tflink,
19:46:25)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:46:25)
* AGREED: 884660 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
following F18 alpha release criterion for systems with multiple
connected nics: "The installer must boot and run on all primary
architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on
those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso
install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a
USB stick ..." (tflink, 19:51:16)
* (885240) GRUB is installed despite Do not install bootloader being
selected (tflink, 19:51:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885240 (tflink,
19:51:46)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:51:49)
* AGREED: 885240 - AcceptedBlocker - The original report violates the
following F18 final release criterion : "The installer must be able
to install into free space alongside an existing clean
single-partition Windows installation and either install a
bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave
the Windows bootloader untouched and working". The other issues are
not affected by this and should be separated into new bugs.
(tflink, 19:59:36)
* Open Floor (tflink, 19:59:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853 (kparal,
20:00:38)
* The next blocker review meeting is scheduled for 2012-12-12 @ 17:00
UTC (tflink, 20:05:45)
Meeting ended at 20:06:11 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jreznik
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
* kparal
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
wednesday. also ping jreznik
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tflink (278)
* adamw (217)
* kparal (139)
* jreznik (58)
* Viking-Ice (57)
* buggbot (18)
* jskladan (7)
* mkrizek (5)
* zodbot (4)
* satellit_ (3)
* satellit (1)
* rbergeron (1)
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11 years, 4 months
APAC Bi-Weekly meeting Minutes, December 8th, 2012
by Arif Tri Waluyo
Dear All,
Thanks to everyone who came to the meetings today!
Meeting summary
---------------
* rolling call (tuanta, 04:31:45)
* News from FAmSCo (tuanta, 04:35:03)
* Review action items from last meeting (arifiauo, 04:39:02)
* APAC Events: plans, status, reports (dramsey, 04:40:50)
* LINK:
http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.htm...,
04:40:59)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-12-08#Agenda...,
04:41:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F18_Klaten(arifiauo,
04:44:50)
* arifiauo is working a Release Party in town (dramsey, 04:46:08)
* I'm planning release party in 2 town (Berastagi and Bandung) (sentabi,
04:46:39)
* zerng07 is planning a release party in Taiwan. (zerng07, 04:47:38)
* ekoikhyar is planning release party in Kendari, Indonesia. (sentabi,
04:49:37)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F18_Tokyo (dramsey,
04:52:00)
* dramsey also planning for release party in tokyo (arifiauo, 04:53:52)
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events update with your F18
Release Events eof (dramsey, 04:54:00)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events update with your
F18 Release Events eof (dramsey, 04:54:10)
* jurank_dankkal is planning release party in Aceh, Indonesia. (sentabi,
05:00:08)
* Trac tickets (arifiauo, 05:05:29)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 (arifiauo,
05:05:47)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/43 (tuanta,
05:11:02)
* ACTION: All APAC FAms, please respond to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/43 (arifiauo, 05:13:53)
* Miscellaneous (arifiauo, 05:14:40)
* Open Floor (dramsey, 05:19:31)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_nominations (arifiauo,
05:20:47)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections (tuanta, 05:22:21)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Indonesia_2013(dramsey,
05:24:51)
Meeting ended at 05:41:38 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* All APAC FAms, please respond to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/43
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* All APAC FAms, please respond to
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/43
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* dramsey (76)
* arifiauo (51)
* tuanta (35)
* jurank_dankkal (19)
* zerng07 (18)
* zodbot (16)
* Suresh (13)
* sentabi (8)
* ikhyar (7)
* ekoikhyar (1)
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-08/apac.2012-12-0...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-08/apac.2012-12-0...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-08/apac.2012-12-0...
Thank You all. Look forwarding to the next meeting. Please have a nice
weekend.
Thanks & Regards,
Arif Tri Waluyo
11 years, 4 months
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-12-06)
by Kevin Fenzi
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-12-06)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-06/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:01:45)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:06:06)
* LINK: http://gnome.org/opw (lmacken, 19:06:59)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:18:52)
* Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:25:07)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:28:24)
* 2012-12-07 8am outage for vfiler moving. (nirik, 19:28:39)
* 2012-12-10 drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:28:40)
* 2012-12-11 to 2013-01-08 F18 Final Freeze (nirik, 19:28:40)
* 2012-12-20 colorado RH holiday lunch (nirik, 19:28:40)
* 2012-12-24 to 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays. (nirik,
19:28:40)
* 2012-01-05 PHX2 outage. (nirik, 19:28:41)
* 2013-01-08 F18 release. (nirik, 19:28:42)
* 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence (nirik, 19:28:44)
* 2013-01-29 f19 feature submission deadline. (nirik, 19:28:46)
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:32:40)
Meeting ended at 19:37:46 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (80)
* abadger1999 (21)
* skvidal (18)
* smooge (17)
* threebean (9)
* pingou (7)
* rbergeron (5)
* zodbot (4)
* ausmarton (3)
* Southern_Gentlem (2)
* ianweller (1)
* athmane (1)
* lmacken (1)
* sontek (1)
* relrod (1)
* jsmith (1)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* dgilmore (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
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19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-12-06)
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 6 19:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
19:00:08 * skvidal is here
19:00:14 * threebean is here
19:00:18 * jsmith lurks
19:00:20 * athmane is around
19:00:27 <relrod> here
19:01:02 * abadger1999 here
19:01:35 <nirik> ok, we have a few folks, lets go ahead and get started...
19:01:45 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
19:02:02 <nirik> Any new people around that would like to introduce themselves? or questions from apprentices?
19:02:04 <smooge> here
19:02:44 <threebean> I should have invited some of the GNOME OPW applicants to the meeting.. I'll make sure to do so next week.
19:03:11 <nirik> ok, as always if you are new, feel free to chime in at any point with questions or comments here or in #fedora-admin/fedora-noc/fedora-apps. ;)
19:03:26 <nirik> threebean: cool. good idea. When does that officially start? or has it already?
19:03:26 <ausmarton> Ausmarton Fernandes here, not quite sure about the format of introduction
19:03:55 <threebean> nirik: we'll announce which candidates are accepted next tuesday, and then the actual gig doesn't start until January I believe.
19:03:57 <nirik> ausmarton: pretty free form. ;) welcome. Are you more interested in the sysadmin side of things? Or the application maintaining/development side?
19:04:48 <nirik> threebean: sounds good.
19:05:41 <nirik> ausmarton: in any case see us after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can direct you further from there. ;)
19:05:42 * pingou (late)
19:06:06 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:06:17 <nirik> any application news from the last few weeks or upcoming?
19:06:30 <pingou> fedocal is moving slowly but surely toward a first release
19:06:31 <nirik> note that we are going to be going back into freeze next tuesday it looks like.
19:06:35 * ianweller is here
19:06:49 <smooge> what is OPW?
19:06:57 <smooge> stupid slow typig
19:06:59 <lmacken> http://gnome.org/opw
19:07:17 <abadger1999> two factor auth -- probably want to talk about that more in sysadmin update.
19:07:24 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah.
19:07:36 <abadger1999> upcoming for that, though, is we'll need to make some changes to how fas handles yubikey
19:07:49 <nirik> we are going to be moving paste to production soon... hopefully before freeze.
19:08:00 <threebean> I switched over bugz.fedoraproject.org/packagename from pkgdb to point to the packages app last Friday. We've gotten a few bug reports since then.. ;)
19:08:02 <nirik> if anyone has any issues with paste.stg, please let us know. ;)
19:08:24 <abadger1999> currently fas allows people to change their yubikeys whenever they want. We'll need to change that so yubikeys can't be changed without admin intervention.
19:08:50 <nirik> abadger1999: yes. Is that something we can get in before the freeze? I guess we can always break for it.
19:08:51 <pingou> abadger1999: change and set ?
19:09:25 <abadger1999> pingou: the idea will be -- you can set a yubikey if there isn't one already. You won't be able to change it once set, though.
19:09:42 <abadger1999> an admin can verify you and then remove the old key.
19:09:51 <abadger1999> then you can set a new one.
19:09:59 <pingou> ok
19:10:14 <nirik> threebean: do the bugz things seem solveable?
19:11:00 <threebean> nirik: yes :)
19:11:03 <abadger1999> I'll also need to figure out how to code something that allows disabling both a yubikey and a google auth key. Currently we don't have a way to disable those and also disallow the user from setting a new one.
19:11:42 <abadger1999> nirik: I'm not sure that I'll get both of those changes in before freeze.
19:11:48 <nirik> abadger1999: whats the use case there? to prevent them from enrolling a new one? we can revoke/delete googleauth command line.
19:12:26 <abadger1999> nirik: yeah -- say that Someone shows up in IRC tomorrow and claims that toshio's phone and yubikey were stolen.
19:12:40 <abadger1999> nirik: the person can't be verified to be toshio to our satisfaction.
19:12:50 <abadger1999> nirik: So we don't want to let them enroll a new key
19:13:01 <nirik> right, but we wouldn't revoke either would we?
19:13:09 <abadger1999> nirik: But to be safe, we also want to disable the old keys until we know whether they are or are not toshio.
19:13:40 <nirik> possibly set the account admin locked? wouldn't that prevent it from being used until?
19:14:27 <abadger1999> nirik: that's true. It's overkill (ie: they could otherwise continue to use things that just require a password) but it would work.
19:14:40 <nirik> yeah.
19:14:54 <nirik> anyhow, can ponder on it.
19:14:59 <nirik> any more application news?
19:15:10 <abadger1999> nirik: Oh, one further things -- we also want to tell people thatsingle-factor yubikey is going away.
19:15:24 <pingou> abadger1999: even for website?
19:15:29 <nirik> yeah. which is a shame, it's actually pretty handy.
19:15:36 <pingou> arf
19:15:56 <threebean> abadger1999: do we have a working pkgdb setup in stg?
19:16:10 <abadger1999> I may be able to add twofactor yubikey (and maybe googleauth as well) in its place but... it's not as useful since single-factor password is still allowed there.
19:16:19 <abadger1999> threebean: yep -- stg pkgdb should be working
19:16:22 <threebean> abadger1999: I'm intending to complete more parts of our pkgdb->packages ticket and it'd be nice to test some more during freeze.
19:16:26 <threebean> abadger1999: great :)
19:16:30 <abadger1999> threebean: excellent.
19:16:54 <nirik> abadger1999: right, unless we also restrict it to require 2factor if it's set, which seems like a penalty for being more secure. ;)
19:17:47 <nirik> anyhow, all for pondering.
19:17:48 <abadger1999> that's all I have for upcoming fas changes.
19:18:45 <nirik> cool.
19:18:52 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:19:07 <nirik> so, big news is that we got our 2 factor auth working for sudo. ;)
19:19:14 <nirik> hopefully it's working for everyone...
19:19:32 <threebean> It's really cool, folks.
19:20:07 <nirik> I did do a bit of poking and with rhel6.4's openssh we could match on things and require ssh key + factor if we wanted to. I don't know if we want to, but it's an option out there.
19:21:15 <nirik> oh, I dropped the last of the smolt stuff off a cliff. I have a last db dump if we want to put it somewhere.
19:21:27 <abadger1999> \o/
19:21:54 <Southern_Gentlem> a moment of silence for Smolt
19:22:00 <Southern_Gentlem> Cheers
19:22:01 <nirik> thanks to abadger1999 and puiterwijk for working on that.
19:22:02 <smooge> \0/\o/\0/
19:22:18 <abadger1999> How long are we planning on running the smolt blackhole server? For a couple years?
19:22:28 <nirik> We have an outage tomorrow morning to move our nfs stuff to vfiler... hopefully that will go smoothly.
19:22:41 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah. I have a note to look at it in a year and see if it's still getting any hits.
19:23:27 <nirik> we have an ongoing ticket about poor trac performance at hosted01/02. If anyone has ideas on that, please feel free to chime in with them
19:23:44 * nirik tries to think of other sysadmin stuff. Lots of small things.
19:24:38 <nirik> anyhow, anything else on sysadmin stuff?
19:25:07 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion
19:25:14 <nirik> so, cloud rolls along. ;)
19:25:23 <nirik> we have a number of instances in the euca side now...
19:25:32 <nirik> the openstack side should be ready to hook up to ansible.
19:25:45 <nirik> we still have: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud#Moving_to_.22...
19:26:26 <nirik> we will keep plugging away at things and hopefully hash out the last stuff at fudcon we need to consider 'production'
19:27:05 <nirik> any other cloudy thoughts?
19:27:20 <smooge> not from me
19:27:31 <nirik> skvidal has been working on getting copers all finished using the cloud backend. Should be pretty awesome.
19:27:46 <skvidal> copr
19:27:48 <skvidal> no 'e'
19:28:02 <skvidal> if I can make this json post to the frelling front end it would be even more awesome
19:28:09 <skvidal> but right now... I just yells at me :(
19:28:15 <nirik> :(
19:28:21 <nirik> anyhow, moving along...
19:28:24 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:28:36 <nirik> info dump...
19:28:39 <nirik> #info 2012-12-07 8am outage for vfiler moving.
19:28:40 <nirik> #info 2012-12-10 drop inactive fi-apprentices
19:28:40 <nirik> #info 2012-12-11 to 2013-01-08 F18 Final Freeze
19:28:40 <nirik> #info 2012-12-20 colorado RH holiday lunch
19:28:40 <nirik> #info 2012-12-24 to 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays.
19:28:41 <nirik> #info 2012-01-05 PHX2 outage.
19:28:42 <nirik> #info 2013-01-08 F18 release.
19:28:44 <nirik> #info 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence
19:28:46 <nirik> #info 2013-01-29 f19 feature submission deadline.
19:28:53 <nirik> anything else to schedule or note?
19:29:09 <nirik> how many folks are going to be listening to their pagers during shutdown week?
19:29:53 <skvidal> I should be near home
19:29:57 <smooge> I should be near home
19:30:07 * nirik is going to be around.
19:30:08 <smooge> psych
19:30:18 <skvidal> nirik: oh and 1998 called and would like its notification devices back
19:30:22 <nirik> note that nicely we are in freeze, so hopefully changes will be small
19:30:36 <smooge> devices?
19:30:40 <skvidal> pagers?
19:30:42 <skvidal> I mean seriously
19:30:45 <nirik> ah yeah. sorry. ;)
19:30:51 <smooge> hey. I love my pager
19:30:57 <skvidal> hah
19:31:16 <nirik> also, do be thinking about fudcon talks/sessions/etc.
19:31:48 <smooge> I am working one on password changes and what it bought us
19:31:53 <nirik> I was thinking we should def have a 'infra roadmap 2013' type session... as well as a 'cloud cloud cloud(tm)' one.
19:32:36 <nirik> anyhow, that takes us to...
19:32:40 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:32:49 <nirik> anything for Open floor?
19:33:45 <smooge> Star Trek trailer is out?
19:33:52 <nirik> is it? cool!
19:34:00 <skvidal> yeah
19:34:01 <smooge> Sherlock is the villian
19:34:07 <skvidal> except I don't understand why sherlock holmes in it
19:34:13 <skvidal> smooge: damn it!
19:34:16 <skvidal> beat me to it
19:34:27 <pingou> say what??
19:34:40 <smooge> skvidal, actually it has to do with when he fell off the building. He fell through time and space and ended up in Star Trek Universe.
19:34:41 <skvidal> Benedict Cumberbatch is the bad guy!
19:35:20 <sontek> Enders Game movie, 2013, who cares about Star Trek!
19:35:20 <ausmarton> hey guys, I need someone as a mentor/sponsor, how do I go about getting one?
19:35:20 <nirik> heh.
19:35:40 <nirik> ausmarton: see us over in #fedora-admin after the meeting. ;) We will get you pointed to the right direction.
19:35:59 <ausmarton> thanks.
19:36:08 * skvidal politely asks sontek to keep his crazy-book-with-weird-religio-political agenda out of discussion of star trek
19:36:22 <rbergeron> dude, the star trek trailer puzzles me
19:36:23 <nirik> heh.
19:36:36 <rbergeron> it has the same thumping soundtrack of fear and terror as prometheus trailer
19:36:47 <rbergeron> and i think even the dark knight trailer
19:36:48 <skvidal> rbergeron: maybe this is the crossover!
19:36:53 <nirik> and we all know how that turned out. ;)
19:36:55 <rbergeron> but this one has a buttery hot voice in the background
19:36:58 <smooge> rbergeron, it is actually the sequels to Inception
19:37:01 <rbergeron> oh, sorry, did i go there?
19:37:02 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing more, shall we call it a meeting?
19:37:14 <skvidal> nirik: but STAR TREK!
19:37:15 <smooge> yes please.
19:37:24 <smooge> I want to listen to the buttery voice again
19:37:40 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone. As always, #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps are open 24hours for your communication needs.
19:37:41 <smooge> Need to work on mimicing it for FudCon
19:37:46 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 4 months
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-12-06)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-12-06)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-06/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 18:00:01)
* Week in review (nirik, 18:04:21)
* LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
(nirik, 18:04:22)
* ticket #132 Sick of "you want me to support someone, pay me" attitude
in #fedora (nirik, 18:05:43)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/132 (nirik,
18:05:44)
* ticket #131 Uncalled-for behaviour on #fedora (nirik, 18:08:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/131 (nirik,
18:08:14)
* not enough folks around this week, will leave tickets for another
week (nirik, 18:10:19)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:10:23)
Meeting ended at 18:12:20 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (26)
* N3LRX (5)
* zodbot (3)
* athmane (1)
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18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-12-06)
18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 6 18:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
18:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
18:00:08 <nirik> who all is around for an irc support sig meeting?
18:00:14 * N3LRX
18:01:00 <N3LRX> Wow.. Huge turnout today.. ;(
18:01:09 <nirik> yeah, lets wait a few min for more folks to show. ;)
18:01:43 * athmane is around
18:04:13 <nirik> ok, I guess low turnout today. ;)
18:04:21 <nirik> #topic Week in review
18:04:22 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
18:04:46 <nirik> nothing too noteworthy the last week or so... beta is out, a lot of folks trying it out.
18:05:35 <nirik> ok, on to tickets then...
18:05:43 <nirik> #topic ticket #132 Sick of "you want me to support someone, pay me" attitude in #fedora
18:05:44 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/132
18:05:59 <nirik> I'm not sure there's any concrete action here we can take.
18:06:25 <nirik> IMHO there are any number of good reasons you need to stop helping someone. You should always be polite when bowing out...
18:08:04 <nirik> I guess since it's just me talking we should leave things open for next week for more input.
18:08:11 <nirik> likewise:
18:08:11 <N3LRX> Seems like just a vent for now.
18:08:13 <nirik> #topic ticket #131 Uncalled-for behaviour on #fedora
18:08:14 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/131
18:08:54 <nirik> this seems to center around "piss off" which I admit was a bit rude... but the rest of it seems pretty tame and the ticket is not actually filed by the person who was interacted with.
18:10:19 <nirik> #info not enough folks around this week, will leave tickets for another week
18:10:23 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:10:26 <nirik> anything for open floor?
18:10:38 <N3LRX> I've got one thing.
18:10:57 <N3LRX> I opened this ticket a while back: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/235 Please provide your input, much appreciated.
18:11:19 <nirik> cool.
18:11:23 * nirik will take a look.
18:12:16 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming N3LRX. ;)
18:12:20 <nirik> #endmeeting
11 years, 4 months
i18n meeting summary (2012-12-06)
by Akira TAGOH
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#fedora-meeting: i18n
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Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:03:48 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-06/i18n.2012-12-0...
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:03:49)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-12-06
(tagoh_, 06:03:50)
* Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:07:27)
* 2012-12-11 Final Change Deadline (tagoh_, 06:07:28)
* 2013-01-08 Fedora 18 Final Release (tagoh_, 06:07:28)
* Outstanding topics (tagoh_, 06:08:41)
* #8: Hinting related issues for Liberation_Fonts_2 on Fedora 18
(pravins) (tagoh_, 06:08:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/8 (tagoh_, 06:08:41)
* AGREED: postpone Liberation_Fonts_2 feature and revert to 1.07.2
(tagoh_, 06:20:24)
* ACTION: pravins to submit a request to drop Liberation_Fonts_2
feature from release-notes (tagoh_, 06:25:13)
* New topics (tagoh_, 06:25:48)
* #9: Fedora 19 Feature planning (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:25:49)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/9 (tagoh_, 06:25:49)
* #10: Fedora 18, KDE and Input (aalam) (tagoh_, 06:37:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/10 (tagoh_, 06:37:41)
* ACTION: juhp to propose the theme issue and the systray issue as
blockers (tagoh_, 07:30:10)
* Open Floor (tagoh_, 07:30:44)
Meeting ended at 07:38:37 UTC.
Action Items
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* pravins to submit a request to drop Liberation_Fonts_2 feature from
release-notes
* juhp to propose the theme issue and the systray issue as blockers
Action Items, by person
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* juhp
* juhp to propose the theme issue and the systray issue as blockers
* pravins
* pravins to submit a request to drop Liberation_Fonts_2 feature from
release-notes
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tagoh_ (99)
* juhp (69)
* aalam (32)
* pravins (29)
* mfabian (19)
* zodbot (7)
* paragan (7)
* fujiwarat (6)
* dueno (4)
* dingyichen (1)
* __anish__ (1)
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