EMEA ambassadors meeting 2012-12-05 minutes
by Christoph Wickert
We managed to do the meeting in ~ 1 hour. Perfect!
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/emea_ambasssad...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/emea_ambasssad...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/emea_ambasssad...
Meet you again on
Wednesday, December 19th (two weeks from now)
at 20:00 UTC
in #fedora-meeting!
Regards,
Christoph
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#fedora-meeting: EMEA ambassadors meeting 2012-12-05
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Meeting started by cwickert at 21:01:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/emea_ambasssad...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (cwickert, 21:02:02)
* announcements (cwickert, 21:03:34)
* Elections for the Fedora Board, FAmSCo and FESCo are open! Vote now
at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting - deadline is 23:59:59 UTC
on the December 9! VOTE VOTE VOTE! (cwickert, 21:05:01)
* HELP: (frankice, 21:05:36)
* FAD EMEA this weekend. Join us in Rheinfelden or on #fedora-fad. We
have a lot of things to discuss, agenda is at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_EMEA_2012 (cwickert, 21:06:09)
* Ambassadors schedule (cwickert, 21:09:09)
* LINK:
http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.html
(cwickert, 21:09:15)
* We need way more release events, we only have a single event in EMEA
so far. you can still submit your event and funding request till
December 14th. For more info, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events (cwickert,
21:14:26)
* F18 release is scheduled for January 8th, but when you plan an
event, please keep in mind it might be delayed for another week or
two. (cwickert, 21:15:15)
* media production takes a 7-10 days, then add a few days for
shipping. media should be available at your place ~ 2 weeks after
GA, that is January 22 (cwickert, 21:18:00)
* ACTION: cwickert to get back to Jiri about the shirts, we want them
ASAP (cwickert, 21:21:25)
* budget requests should now be filed in the EMEA swag tracker and no
longer in FAmSCo's track. (cwickert, 21:23:53)
* ACTION: cwickert to work on the EMEA trac insatance (cwickert,
21:27:49)
* Events (cwickert, 21:29:37)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q4_.28December_2012_-_February...
(cwickert, 21:29:57)
* Fedora will be at http://konf.fsf.hu/cgis/ossc this weekend, you can
still support Zoltan and Gergily by showing up and bringing some
swag with you (cwickert, 21:32:39)
* cwickert registered Fedora at FOSDEM, booth is not yet confirmed
(cwickert, 21:38:13)
* if you want to attend FOSDEM, please register at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2013 (cwickert, 21:40:52)
* most deadlines for FOSDEM are due, but you can still submit a
lightning talk till December 21st, see
https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_lightningtalks/ (cwickert,
21:44:22)
* Chemnitzer Linux-Tage take place March 16th + 17th, 2013 (cwickert,
21:49:10)
* Action items from previous meetings (cwickert, 21:51:18)
* Open Floor (cwickert, 21:53:07)
* the delay of F18 caused a lot of bad PR and FUD. Set it straight
where ever you find it (cwickert, 22:08:31)
* lets deliver an awesome F18 release. File bugs, fix bugs, hold
release events, make noise, spread the word! (cwickert, 22:09:13)
Meeting ended at 22:10:26 UTC.
Action Items
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* cwickert to get back to Jiri about the shirts, we want them ASAP
* cwickert to work on the EMEA trac insatance
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cwickert
* cwickert to get back to Jiri about the shirts, we want them ASAP
* cwickert to work on the EMEA trac insatance
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* giallu (25)
* rbergeron (21)
* gnokii (20)
* zodbot (14)
* robyduck (14)
* affix (7)
* jreznik (7)
* zoltanh7211 (6)
* nirik (4)
* twohot (3)
* dramsey (3)
* frankice (2)
* Viking-Ice (2)
* cmpahar (2)
* sesivany (1)
* netSys (1)
* anishjp (1)
* mailga (1)
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11 years, 4 months
Summary/Minutes for Wednesday's FESCo meeting (2012-12-05)
by Bill Nottingham
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-12-05)
===================================
Meeting started by notting at 18:07:27 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/fesco.2012-12-...
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Meeting summary
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* 896 - Refine Feature Process (notting, 18:07:50)
* AGREED: Feature process modification: features are announced on
devel-announce by feature wrangler once wrangler verifies feature
page content (+:9, -:0) (notting, 18:34:51)
* AGREED: FESCo votes on new features no sooner than a week after the
devel-announce announcement. (+:8, -:0, 0:0) (notting, 18:46:03)
* AGREED: mitr (and others) will continue to discuss specific
improvements (notting, 18:49:18)
* 960 - F18 schedule + the holidays (notting, 18:50:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaroslavReznik/FedupF18Final -
not updated yet (jreznik, 18:58:15)
* AGREED: Allow deferment of fedup gui until F19 (+:8, -:0, 0:0)
(notting, 19:05:56)
* AGREED: Do not block on fedup signature checking (not a regression)
(+:7, -:0, 0:0) (notting, 19:08:47)
* AGREED: (960) Final change deadline moved from 12/18 to 12/11.
Release date remains 01/08. (+:6, -:3 0:0) (notting, 19:50:11)
* 940 - The /tmp-on-tmpfs feature should be disabled by default
(notting, 19:51:03)
* AGREED: #940 (The tmp-on-tmpfs feature should be disabled by
default) does not pass. (+:4, -:4, 0:1) (notting, 20:06:37)
* Open Floor (notting, 20:07:42)
* Elections going on now - please vote. (notting, 20:07:52)
* Next week's chair is jwb (notting, 20:08:09)
Meeting ended at 20:11:34 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* notting (106)
* jreznik (94)
* nirik (84)
* mjg59 (75)
* jwb (70)
* pjones (66)
* t8m (62)
* mitr (48)
* adamw (32)
* tflink (23)
* mmaslano (20)
* limburgher (20)
* rbergeron (11)
* zodbot (9)
* Viking-Ice (3)
* mattdm (3)
* BobJensen (1)
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11 years, 4 months
F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-2
=============================================
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-bl...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-bl...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-05/f18final-bl...
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:14)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:07:20)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:07:33)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:07:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:07:42)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:07:48)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:07:48)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:07:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* The current count of blocker and NTH bugs is: (tflink, 17:08:08)
* 25 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:08:17)
* 15 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:08:18)
* 23 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:08:18)
* 5 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:08:18)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:09:47)
* 12 proposed blockers highlighted for discussion (tflink, 17:09:58)
* (851265) booting a wrong arch results in a black screen (tflink,
17:10:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851265 (tflink,
17:10:40)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (tflink, 17:10:40)
* AGREED: 851265 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is
inconvenient, it is easily workaround-able (don't boot an image that
your arch can't support) it is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
However, some warning message would be nice and a tested fix would
be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:16:37)
* (873220) dracut ignores /etc/modprobe.d blacklist (tflink, 17:16:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873220 (tflink,
17:16:45)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:16:47)
* AGREED: 873220 - RejectedBlocker - Given our understanding at this
time, this mostly affects the third-party graphics drivers which
does not violate any F18 release criteria and could be fixed with an
update. Therefore rejected as a blocker for F18 final (already
accepted as NTH, a tested fix would be considered past freeze)
(tflink, 17:26:49)
* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
user (tflink, 17:27:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670 (tflink,
17:27:47)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 17:27:50)
* there is still a lot of confusion around this issue and there is
currently not enough information to make a decision on blocker
status. will re-visit when there is more info (tflink, 17:28:41)
* (870753) [abrt] gnome-font-viewer-3.6.0-1.fc18: load_font_infos:
Process /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
(tflink, 17:30:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=870753 (tflink,
17:30:11)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-font-viewer, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:30:14)
* AGREED: 870753 - It's still unclear on whether this is still
crashing or just displaying a bogus error message. We need more info
on current behavior before deciding on blocker status. Request that
a new gnome-font-viewer be built with the in-bug patch and testing
with the new version to determine current behavior. (tflink,
17:40:42)
* (862828) cancelling network time service kills firstboot (tflink,
17:40:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862828 (tflink,
17:40:51)
* Proposed Blocker, system-config-date, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:40:52)
* AGREED: 862828 - AcceptedBlocker - This provides a pretty bad first
impression but doesn't completely violate any F18 release criterion.
Accepted (pending criterion revision proposal) as it violates the
following F18 alpha release criterion in spirit: "In most cases, a
system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to
the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation,
without unintended user intervention ..." (tflink, 17:50:12)
* ACTION: adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit
/ next boot run suppression (adamw, 17:51:21)
* (873831) Make /tmp bigger, or use target image for yum downloads
(tflink, 17:52:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873831 (tflink,
17:52:36)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:52:38)
* AGREED: 873831 - RejectedBlocker - While unfortunate, this seems to
be a little too much of a corner case to take as a blocker for F18
final (little memory, many extra repos) and is rejected as a
blocker. Please re-propose if it turns out to be a more general
problem than we're understanding. (tflink, 18:03:27)
* (874486) progress indicator for mediacheck isn't displayed, so users
may think the installer is hung (tflink, 18:03:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874486 (tflink,
18:03:36)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:03:39)
* AGREED: 874486 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the
following F18 final release criterion: "If there is an embedded
checksum in the image, it must match. If there is a related UI
element displayed after booting the image, it must work and display
the correct result". However, removing mediacheck as the default
boot option would be enough to remove release blocking status. A
tested complete fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
18:13:16)
* (876716) anaconda crashes after setting root password (tflink,
18:13:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876716 (tflink,
18:13:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:13:31)
* AGREED: 876716 - AcceptedBlocker - While this doesn't happen every
time, it seems to be happening enough to justify release-blocking
status. Violates the following F18 final release criterion as a
not-uncommon timing issue: "The installer must be able to complete
an installation using all supported interfaces" (tflink, 18:18:08)
* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta (tflink,
18:18:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722 (tflink,
18:18:21)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:18:21)
* AGREED: 882722 - This seems like it would qualify as a blocker for
F18 final but we would like to get more information on what install
configurations cause this before making a final decision. Will
re-visit when there is more information. (tflink, 18:28:52)
* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen (tflink, 18:28:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144 (tflink,
18:28:56)
* Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW (tflink, 18:28:57)
* still waiting for tflink to re-organize as a clear issue, will
re-visit when that happens (tflink, 18:31:51)
* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace (tflink, 18:33:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088 (tflink,
18:33:12)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:33:12)
* AGREED: 872088 - While it seems clear that people are still hitting
grubby issues, the exact cause of this isn't clear and might be
better to split off into a new report. will revisit later (tflink,
18:38:04)
* (860789) Multihead displays shows artifacts (tflink, 18:39:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860789 (tflink,
18:39:57)
* Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW (tflink, 18:39:57)
* AGREED: 860789 - RejectedBlocker - This could be fixed with an
update in most situations and is too hardware/setup specific to
block the release of F18 final. (tflink, 18:46:24)
* Open Floor (tflink, 18:49:58)
* if no need is seen before then, the next blocker review meeting will
be on 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 20:14:24)
Meeting ended at 20:14:54 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
boot run suppression
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
boot run suppression
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (230)
* kparal (112)
* adamw (102)
* Viking-Ice (87)
* jreznik (53)
* akshayvyas (15)
* buggbot (13)
* pschindl (13)
* robatino (6)
* zodbot (5)
* eblake (3)
* rbergeron (2)
* satellit (1)
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11 years, 4 months
FAmNA Meeting (5 December 2012)
by Dan Mashal
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#fedora-meeting Meeting
=======================
Meeting started by chanchito at 02:00:01 UTC. The full logs are
available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-05/fedora-meeti...
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Meeting summary
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* === Announcements === (dan408, 02:03:15)
* go vote now before it is too late (inode0, 02:03:44)
* LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting (dan408, 02:04:07)
* LINK:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/offline-retail-tradeshows/t1142.html
(rbergeron, 02:11:26)
* LINK: http://fudconlawrence-ianweller.rhcloud.com/ (dan408,
02:31:55)
* LINK:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05N...
(kk4ewt, 02:37:52)
* === Budget === (dan408, 02:38:52)
* open floor (dan408, 03:05:35)
* === Open Floor === (dan408, 03:05:55)
* == Who will be the next FAmNA meeting chair? == (dan408, 03:07:01)
* ACTION: graphite6 to chair the next meeting (dan408, 03:08:04)
Meeting ended at 03:08:17 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* graphite6 to chair the next meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* graphite6
* graphite6 to chair the next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* dan408 (93)
* inode0 (89)
* rbergeron (54)
* chanchito (34)
* graphite6 (32)
* kk4ewt (31)
* nb (16)
* zodbot (12)
* masta (1)
* wrnash1 (0)
* epico (0)
11 years, 4 months
F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.2 Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-qa: f18final-blocker-review-1.2
=======================================
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-re...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-re...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-12-03/f18final-blocker-re...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:25:12)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:33:07)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:33:17)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:33:23)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:33:23)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:33:28)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:33:28)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:33:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:34)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:35)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:33:35)
* The current blocker/nth list consists of: (tflink, 17:33:54)
* 44 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:33:57)
* 10 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:33:57)
* 21 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:33:58)
* 3 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:33:58)
* (882147) SystemError: (32, 'umount: /run/install/isodir: target is
busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device
is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))') (tflink, 17:36:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882147 (tflink,
17:36:13)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:36:15)
* AGREED: 882147 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is an
obviously invalid operation that probably should be rejected, it
isn't catastropic and is a bit too much of a corner case to block
release over (tflink, 17:42:18)
* (545148) livecd boot from iscsi storage (tflink, 17:42:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545148 (tflink,
17:42:27)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:42:27)
* AGREED: 545148 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
(tflink, 17:51:37)
* (874553) rd.debug boot option doesn't log to /run/initramfs/init.log
(tflink, 17:51:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874553 (tflink,
17:51:46)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:51:46)
* AGREED: 874553 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a hinderance to
debugging installed systems and images, it doesn't clearly hit any
of the F18 release criteria and is thus rejected as a blocker for
F18 final. (tflink, 17:56:58)
* (873817) inkscape packaging bugs prevent install (tflink, 17:57:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873817 (tflink,
17:57:08)
* Proposed Blocker, inkscape, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:57:08)
* AGREED: - In spirit, we are OK with modifying the alpha release
criterion "There must be no file conflicts or unresolved package
dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install" to include more
generic packaging errors. The details and final voting will happen
on test@ (tflink, 18:04:08)
* AGREED: 873817 - AcceptedBlocker - This violates the modified
release criteria mentioned above and is thus accepted as a blocker
assuming that the proposed changes go through. Will be rejected if
the changed aren't accepted by test@ (tflink, 18:06:33)
* (873207) No entry in grub2 menu for windows8 in dual boot setup
install TC7 (tflink, 18:06:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873207 (tflink,
18:06:48)
* Proposed Blocker, os-prober, NEW (tflink, 18:06:51)
* AGREED: 873207 - RejectedBlocker - The dual-boot with windows
criterion was written for BIOS systems and the UEFI/win8 case is
different. If it turns out that the BIOS case is affected, please
file a new bug and propose it as a blocker (tflink, 18:22:05)
* (867770) anaconda GUI becomes unresponsive (tflink, 18:22:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=867770 (tflink,
18:22:18)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:19)
* AGREED: 867770 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criteria (in spirit) if a user re-enters the storage spoke
after reclaiming space: "The installer must be able to create and
install to any workable partition layout using any file system
offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software,
hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink,
18:31:32)
* (879030) pungi strips langpacks metadata from comps, breaks langpacks
installation for DVD (tflink, 18:31:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879030 (tflink,
18:31:49)
* Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 18:31:51)
* AGREED: 879030 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criteria for DVD installs and can't be fixed with an update
post-isntall without reinstalling packages: "All critical path
actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly
display all sufficiently complete translations available for use"
(tflink, 18:38:34)
* (860525) dracut-pre-pivot[272]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, (tflink, 18:38:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (tflink,
18:38:48)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 18:38:50)
* AGREED: 860525 - We still don't understand exactly how this is a
release-blocking issue or which criteria it impacts. Ask for more
info and revisit later (tflink, 18:43:51)
* (861219) Switching to discret GPU render system unusable (tflink,
18:44:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861219 (tflink,
18:44:02)
* Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW (tflink, 18:44:02)
* AGREED: 861219 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
release criteria as it doesn't impede basic operation. Thus, is
rejected as a blocker for F18 final (tflink, 18:45:38)
* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen (tflink, 18:45:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144 (tflink,
18:45:48)
* Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW (tflink, 18:45:48)
* there are several bugs related to this issue and the story isn't
100% clear. it needs to be cleaned up and discussed later (tflink,
18:54:11)
* ACTION: tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one
as a blocker for F18 final (tflink, 18:55:39)
* we agree in principle that some status indication is needed during
upgrade before F18 final is released. however, we don't want to
accept anything as release blocking without being more specific on
what the solution we're expecting is (tflink, 18:56:21)
* AGREED: 873144 - The situation here isn't 100% clear and needs to be
cleaned up before farther discussion. Will re-visit when the upgrade
status issue has been cleaned up (tflink, 18:57:26)
* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
user (tflink, 18:57:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670 (tflink,
18:57:43)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 18:57:45)
* AGREED: 881670 - We need more information on potential solutions to
this class of propblems before deciding on blocker status, will
re-visit later (tflink, 19:23:56)
* (868558) anaconda needs to tell yum what's a URL and what's a
mirrorlist (tflink, 19:24:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868558 (tflink,
19:24:16)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:24:18)
* AGREED: 868558 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for mirror lists: "The installer must be able to
use all supported local and remote package source options" (tflink,
19:37:39)
* (876223) NFSISO installation doesn't use internally mounted DVD repo,
instead uses Closest Mirror (tflink, 19:39:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876223 (tflink,
19:39:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 19:39:34)
* AGREED: 876223 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion for NFSISO: "The installer must be able to use all
supported local and remote package source options" (tflink,
19:46:58)
* (877623) fedup does not seem to verify the update source (tflink,
19:48:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877623 (tflink,
19:48:33)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 19:48:33)
* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace (tflink, 19:57:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088 (tflink,
19:57:38)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:57:38)
* AGREED: 872088 - This needs more triage into why and in what
situations the TB is occuring before deciding on blocker status.
Will revisit later. (tflink, 20:01:21)
* Open Floor (tflink, 20:03:19)
* the next blocker review meeting will be 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC
(tflink, 20:06:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease now links here, so
we get more visitors (kparal, 20:09:36)
* we will be moving the blocker meetings back to #fedora-bugzappers
for now - holding it in #fedora-qa is too disruptive (tflink,
20:13:46)
Meeting ended at 20:14:26 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
blocker for F18 final
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* tflink
* tflink to clean up fedup upgrade status bugs and propose one as a
blocker for F18 final
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (271)
* adamw (171)
* kparal (164)
* Viking-Ice (81)
* jreznik (58)
* mel- (10)
* jskladan_ (9)
* barry_scott (7)
* zodbot (7)
* pschindl (7)
* mkrizek (4)
* akshayvyas (4)
* nirik (2)
* satellit (2)
* txenoo (1)
* dgilmore (1)
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11 years, 4 months
Docs Meeting Summary -- 3 December 2012
by Ben Cotton
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (bcotton, 14:05:39)
* Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:09:09)
* ACTION: jjmcd to build Release Notes RPM (bcotton, 14:11:04)
* Fedora 18 schedule (bcotton, 14:12:47)
* LINK:
http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-docs-tasks.html
(bcotton, 14:12:56)
* F 18 final is scheduled for 8 Jan (bcotton, 14:13:06)
* String Freeze for guides is 18 December (bcotton, 14:13:33)
* Release Notes (bcotton, 14:15:35)
* randomuser has done a great job shepherding the Release Notes this
cycle (bcotton, 14:15:58)
* randomuser has semi-regular RN builds (bcotton, 14:17:24)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:19:50)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:20:09)
* Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:21:15)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_User_Questionnaire -
gathering info on whats actually needed (brad_b82, 14:24:49)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_User_Questionnaire
(zoglesby, 14:25:19)
* ACTION: brad_b82 to post new user questionnaire to docs and
marketing lists (bcotton, 14:29:06)
Meeting ended at 14:36:25 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jjmcd to build Release Notes RPM
* brad_b82 to post new user questionnaire to docs and marketing lists
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* brad_b82
* brad_b82 to post new user questionnaire to docs and marketing lists
* jjmcd
* jjmcd to build Release Notes RPM
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (42)
* randomuser (6)
* brad_b82 (5)
* zodbot (5)
* jjmcd (3)
* zoglesby (3)
* Capesteve (2)
* Sparks (1)
Minutes:
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Ben Cotton
Fedora Docs Leader
11 years, 4 months
Re: Insight and Fedora Weekly News
by Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 November 2012 14:28, Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 16:02 -0500, Ruth Suehle wrote:
>> What we're looking for now is for someone to shout, "good idea!", "bad
>> idea!", or "I was already halfway through with something like that!"
>> before we continue down the path. "I'd like to help with a beat!" is
>> also a good answer. :-)
>
> Good idea!
>
> Maybe try using WP instead of Drupal though :) IIRC I think issues with
> Drupal are what bogged down the last attempt?
That is kind of news to me. I thought it was the other way (they had
done a WP type and thrown it out and then went to Drupal). What seemed
to kill it to me was Real Life (TM) coming up and slapping a lot of
contributors around at the same time.
I don't mean this that we should keep with Drupal.. both WP and Drupal
are a pain to keep up with due to a large number of addons and
security updates needed to keep them acting the way people want to use
them. This is the case with all the CMS's because as addons are added
the security and other interactions get easier to find exploits.
Looking at later emails in the list.. I would chip in for the hosted
version if they will do the updates to plugins also and we can live
with their menu of available plugins (eg if it is not on the list.. we
aren't getting it.)
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
"Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it."
Linus Torvalds
"Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh
so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me." —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd
11 years, 5 months
