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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-6
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 17:02:42)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:12:21)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:12:36)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:12:43)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:12:43)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:12:49)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:12:49)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:12:55)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:12:55)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:12:56)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:12:56)
* the current number of blocker and NTH bugs is: (tflink, 17:13:36)
* 17 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:13:46)
* 18 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:13:46)
* 31 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:13:46)
* 23 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:13:46)
* the number of bugs that are 'ready for discussion' today are:
(tflink, 17:15:04)
* 8 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:15:10)
* 23 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:15:10)
* (877658) [i18n] some storage-related error messages not marked for
translation: "Not enough free space on disks for automatic
partitioning" (tflink, 17:17:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877658 (tflink,
17:17:59)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:18:02)
* AGREED: 877658 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18
final release criterion: "All critical path actions on
release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all
sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink,
17:21:57)
* (883699) Changing LV name in custom partitioning crashes installer
(TypeError: Argument 2 does not allow None as a value) (tflink,
17:22:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883699 (tflink,
17:22:11)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:22:14)
* AGREED: 883699 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion when modifying any volume name in custom
partitioning: " The installer must be able to create and install to
any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a
default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS
RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 17:27:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888089 (tflink,
17:28:14)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:28:14)
* AGREED: 883699 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be
capable of the following ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations
without crashing" (tflink, 17:31:54)
* (886061) 'fedora' or 'updates' repository error must be fatal,
otherwise the upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink,
17:32:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink,
17:32:05)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:32:07)
* AGREED: 886061 - RejectedBlocker - With the changes in fedup coming
for F18, this bug is no longer as serious as it was and thus, does
not qualify for release blocking status for F18 final (tflink,
17:37:47)
* (875846) [i18n] "ON" and "OFF" not translated in switches on DVD
(gtk30.mo not on DVD) (tflink, 17:37:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875846 (tflink,
17:37:59)
* Proposed Blocker, lorax, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:38:01)
* AGREED: 875846 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking
desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently
complete translations available for use" (tflink, 17:43:09)
* (872851) [abrt] rhythmbox-2.98-4.fc18: Process /usr/bin/rhythmbox was
killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 17:43:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872851 (tflink,
17:43:22)
* Proposed Blocker, rhythmbox, NEW (tflink, 17:43:24)
* AGREED: 872851 - RejectedBlocker - While rhythmbox is a default
application, this bug requires enabling of a non-default plugin and
thus does not qualify for release blocking status for F18 final.
(tflink, 17:46:52)
* (861280) KDE Crashes or Hangs After Moving Konqueror Window Quickly
(tflink, 17:47:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861280 (tflink,
17:47:03)
* Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW (tflink, 17:47:06)
* AGREED: 861280 - RejectedBlocker - This is very HW limited and thus,
does not qualify for release blocking status. (tflink, 17:49:59)
* (860022) AttributeError: preconf (tflink, 17:50:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860022 (tflink,
17:50:06)
* Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 17:50:06)
* AGREED: 860022 - AcceptedNTH - We need more information on how many
repos are being used to trigger this and if the updates.img from
comment#20 works before deciding on blocker status. However, this is
bad enough to warrant NTH status - a tested fix would be considered
past freeze. (tflink, 17:58:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886647 (adamw,
17:59:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (adamw,
17:59:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212 (adamw,
17:59:53)
* (860525) dracut-pre-pivot[272]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, (tflink, 18:02:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (tflink,
18:02:35)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:02:38)
* AGREED: 860525 - It still isn't clear how this impacts NFS installs,
need more information before deciding on blocker status (tflink,
18:11:13)
* (882212) localectl set-x11-keymap: variant settings does not work
(tflink, 18:11:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212 (tflink,
18:11:20)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, POST (tflink, 18:11:23)
* AGREED: 882212 - AcceptedNTH - This does affect upgrades with yum
which aren't recommended but aren't uncommon. A tested fix would be
considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:17:49)
* (886647) Anaconda throws exception trying to setup network if
non-existing network --device is specified in kickstart (tflink,
18:18:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886647 (tflink,
18:18:09)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 18:18:11)
* AGREED: 886647 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is too much of a
corner case to take as a blocker but it can't be fixed with an
update and a non-trivial number of people could hit this. A tested
fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:21:33)
* (888107) Shell leaking memory with every interaction with the panel
(tflink, 18:31:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888107 (tflink,
18:31:07)
* Proposed NTH, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 18:31:10)
* AGREED: 888107 - AcceptedNTH - This isn't quite a blocker but causes
problems for lives, especially in lower memory situations. A tested
fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:35:11)
* (830181) Logout/shutdown/restart should be inhibited while Apper is
performing updates (tflink, 18:35:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830181 (tflink,
18:35:24)
* Proposed NTH, PackageKit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:35:26)
* AGREED: 830181 - RejectedNTH - Taking PK fixes this close to release
is unwise and since this bug wouldn't affect live images and thus
could be fixed with an update - rejected as NTH for F18 final
(tflink, 18:41:52)
* (875567) anaconda doesnt set keyboard layout for LUKS password at
reboot (tflink, 18:42:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875567 (tflink,
18:42:04)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:42:07)
* AGREED: 875567 - AcceptedNTH - This is borderline blocker since LUKS
passwords are affected but not all installations are affected by
this. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
18:49:57)
* (876916) anaconda claims I don't have enough free space when I have
(tflink, 18:51:46)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876916 (tflink,
18:51:49)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:51:51)
* AGREED: 876916 - AcceptedNTH - This isn't critical but it would be
good to have effective minimum space detection and this can't be
fixed with an update. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
(tflink, 18:56:55)
* (882233) Chinese (Taiwan) shows Simplified Chinese instead of
Traditional Chinese at left (native language view) side (tflink,
18:57:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882233 (tflink,
18:57:09)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:57:12)
* AGREED: 882233 - We would like to have more information on how bugs
like this have been handled in the past - there isn't a clear
universal answer which all parties would like. Will revisit when
there's more info. (tflink, 19:16:13)
* (886463) Keyboard layout switching is confusing on LiveCD (tflink,
19:16:22)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886463 (tflink,
19:16:22)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:16:22)
* AGREED: 886463 - AcceptedNTH - Adding the warning message seems like
a good idea without much risk. A tested fix would be considered past
freeze. (tflink, 19:21:48)
* (887112) Existing Windows 7 appears under \'Unknown\' in Manual
Partitioning (tflink, 19:21:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887112 (tflink,
19:21:58)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:22:00)
* AGREED: 887112 - RejectedNTH - While this might be a nice visual
enhancement, it isn't a huge deal and represents a bit more risk
than we'd like to see so late in the release. (tflink, 19:27:12)
* (888112) Yellow error display bar is incapable of wrapping long
errors, they are too wide and overflow the side of the screen
(tflink, 19:27:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888112 (tflink,
19:27:23)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, VERIFIED (tflink, 19:27:26)
* AGREED: 888112 - AcceptedNTH - This is a very useful visual
enhancement without much risk and can't be fixed with an update. A
tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:31:14)
* (888603) Custom partitioning shouldn't let you set /boot as btrfs
(tflink, 19:31:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888603 (tflink,
19:31:27)
* Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:31:29)
* AGREED: 888603 - AcceptedNTH - This is a safety check to disallow a
non-obviously invalid operation and is relatively low risk. A tested
fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:33:30)
* (886556) missing icons in yumex & apper (tflink, 19:33:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886556 (tflink,
19:33:43)
* Proposed NTH, comps-extras, NEW (tflink, 19:33:43)
* AGREED: 886556 - RejectedNTH - While this is a polish issue that
would be good to fix, it's late in the release and the risk of
taking this fix so late is not clearly low (could affect PK, apper
etc.). (tflink, 19:43:44)
* (855697) No way to change the language on Live (tflink, 19:44:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855697 (tflink,
19:44:38)
* Proposed NTH, control-center, NEW (tflink, 19:44:38)
* AGREED: 855697 - AcceptedNTH - While there are a couple ideas in the
bug, there is an available fix upstream to add a logout button to
the language/region applet - a tested fix would be considered past
freeze but only if it is the fix from upstream - other fixes would
need to be reproposed for NTH status (tflink, 19:51:27)
* (873849) no keyboard shortcut for toggling keyboard layouts (tflink,
19:51:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873849 (tflink,
19:51:34)
* Proposed NTH, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (tflink, 19:51:35)
* AGREED: 873849 - It isn't completely clear what the fix for this
might be or whether there is developer support for a fix. Will
re-visit when more info is available (tflink, 19:59:59)
* (886077) Custom shortcut super+'char' writes the char or does nothing
instead of execute demanded action (tflink, 20:00:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886077 (tflink,
20:00:16)
* Proposed NTH, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (tflink, 20:00:18)
* AGREED: 886077 - RejectedNTH - While this is an inconvenience, it
involves setting custom actions which is unlikely to affect live
images and thus can be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:08:43)
* (888395) 3.6.11 update for kernel (tflink, 20:08:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888395 (tflink,
20:08:51)
* Proposed NTH, kernel, NEW (tflink, 20:08:51)
* AGREED: 888395 - RejectedNTH - This would only fix media sourced
upgrades for a very short time and would not affect network sourced
upgrades. Since there are no other critical reasons to upgrade the
released kernel, rejected as NTH for F18 final. (tflink, 20:12:14)
* (872162) error creating partitions on LVM volume created with
allocation=0 (tflink, 20:12:22)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872162 (tflink,
20:12:25)
* Proposed NTH, libvirt, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:12:27)
* AGREED: 872162 - RejectedNTH - This involves VM creation which is
not likely to affect live images and isn't the default path for VM
creation anyways. It could be fixed with an update and doesn't need
to be pulled past freeze. (tflink, 20:16:10)
* (884878) FirewallConfig in imgcreate/kickstart.py requires FirewallD
(tflink, 20:16:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884878 (tflink,
20:16:21)
* Proposed NTH, livecd-tools, NEW (tflink, 20:16:24)
* AGREED: 884878 - AcceptedNTH - Enabling spins to ship without
firewalld is desirable as long as the fix isn't too bad. A tested
fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 20:19:53)
* (821221) ibus-setup language selection entries shadowed out (tflink,
20:20:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821221 (tflink,
20:20:01)
* Proposed NTH, oxygen-gtk3, NEW (tflink, 20:20:01)
* AGREED: 821221 - RejectedNTH - There appear to be no extra IMEs on
the KDE live media and thus, this would not affect lives and could
be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:35:58)
* (875430) After installing unable to boot Fedora 18 with virtio-scsi
after successfully installing using virtio-scsi driver (have to use
virtio-blk to boot) (tflink, 20:36:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875430 (tflink,
20:36:11)
* Proposed NTH, qemu, NEW (tflink, 20:36:14)
* AGREED: 875430 - AcceptedNTH - Allowing non-primary storage drivers
in a VM would be preferred and a relatively small, tested fix would
be considered past freeze. (tflink, 20:41:29)
* (886208) systemd should mount efivarfs by default on UEFI machines
(tflink, 20:41:37)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886208 (tflink,
20:41:40)
* Proposed NTH, systemd, NEW (tflink, 20:41:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886199 (tflink,
20:48:07)
* AGREED: 886208 - RejectedNTH - This wouldn't affect the released
version of F18 since it's for personal/private signing of shim and
could be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:52:16)
* (879922) Fails to open from the Xfce menu. (tflink, 20:56:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922 (tflink,
20:56:04)
* Proposed NTH, xfce4-panel, NEW (tflink, 20:56:04)
* AGREED: 879922 - AcceptedNTH - Prevents system-config-date from
working on XFCE which is the default date config mechanism for XFCE.
(tflink, 21:02:52)
* (849347) radeon driver cannot handle restarting xorg server sometimes
(fails with: *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -35!) (tflink,
21:03:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849347 (tflink,
21:03:04)
* Proposed NTH, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW (tflink, 21:03:06)
* AGREED: 849347 - RejectedNTH - This seems rather limited in the HW
affected and doesn't happen all of the time - it's too late in the
release process to be taking non-showstopper bugs for F18. (tflink,
21:07:10)
* (816073, 820154, 816389, 884274) rdma and srptools for F18 (tflink,
21:10:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816073 (tflink,
21:10:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820154 (tflink,
21:10:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816389 (tflink,
21:10:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884274 (tflink,
21:10:00)
* Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 21:10:06)
* LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand for idiot monkeys
(adamw, 21:12:25)
* AGREED: 816073, 820154, 816389, 884274 - AcceptedNTH - Due to the
nature of these changes, they cannot be pushed post-release due to
updates policy, are unlikely to break anything else and contain
security fixes. Builds would be considered past freeze if they had
enough karma. (tflink, 21:17:27)
* next review meeting (tflink, 21:18:28)
* the next blocker/nth review meeting will be scheduled as needed -
maybe tomorrow or friday (tflink, 21:20:55)
* (882976) Pixman/Cairo leaks like crazy (tflink, 21:22:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882976 (tflink,
21:22:00)
* Proposed NTH, pixman, MODIFIED (tflink, 21:22:00)
* AGREED: 882976 - AcceptedNTH - Memory leaks are bad and this could
affect live images, making it not possible to fix with an update in
all cases. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
21:24:13)
* Open Floor (tflink, 21:24:44)
Meeting ended at 21:31:44 UTC.
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