= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman dlehman@fedoraproject.org
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability. This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS installation.
== Detailed description == Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage configuration.
== Scope == Proposal owners: implement Thin Provisioning functionality in the installer Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce
Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik@redhat.com) said:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman dlehman@fedoraproject.org
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability. This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS installation.
== Detailed description == Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage configuration.
While documentation is not techinically required for all self-contained changes, this strikes me as one that *does* require documentation in the installation guide.
Bill
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 12:26 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman dlehman@fedoraproject.org
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability. This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS installation.
== Detailed description == Thin Provisioning support in the installer will include a new automatic partitioning variant as well as support for thin volumes during custom storage configuration.
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need more pressing.
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:59 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need more pressing.
Installation Options is basically the single most problematic part of the entire anaconda newUI; this is just another problem to throw on the gigantic pile, unfortunately...
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters walters@verbum.org wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need more pressing.
Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an option within Manual Partitioning? I'm not finding a single source for the tradeoffs between regular and thinp.
Does GRUB support LVM thinp? If not, Manual Partitioning shouldn't let the user put /boot on LVM thinp. Current it does allow an all LVM installation, and it does work.
Chris Murphy
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters walters@verbum.org wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need more pressing.
Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an option within Manual Partitioning?
Installation Options is a part of *both* paths.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters walters@verbum.org wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the tradeoffs between the various options. A GtkComboBox with ["LVM", "LVM (Thin Provisioning)", "BTRFS"] pretty much required one to consult external documentation before this change, and certainly understanding all of the tradeoffs around thin provisioning will only make that need more pressing.
Should it even be in Guided's Installation Options? Or should it be an option within Manual Partitioning?
Installation Options is a part of *both* paths.
It affects the defaults in Manual Partitioning, but it doesn't act as a limiter to Manual Partitioning.
e.g. XFS nor RAID are in Installation Options; yet I can still use them in Manual Partitioning regardless of how Installation Options is set.
Chris Murphy