Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.
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Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at: https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket = Title of issue https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/### DECISION (+X, Y, -Z)
= Followups =
#topic #1935 Remove packages which has a consistent bad security record from the distribution. .fesco 1935 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935
= New business =
#topic #1955 Let's get rid of filedeps (FESCo edition) .fesco 1955 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1955
#topic #1962 F29 Change: Cloud Provider Image Updates .fesco 1962 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1962
#topic #1964 Nonresponsive maintainer: wolnei (kio-gdrive) .fesco 1964 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1964
#topic #1967 Fedora 29 incomplete changes .fesco 1967 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967
#topic #1968 Proposed F30 Schedule .fesco 1968 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1968
#topic #1969 Nonresponsive maintainer: dbmacartney .fesco 1969 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1969
= Open Floor =
For more complete details, please visit each individual issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.
= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
#1956 F29 Change: Merge Dstat and Performance co-pilot https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1956 DECISION (+7, 0, 0)
#1957 F29 Change: Liberation Fonts 2 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1957 DECISION (+6, 0, 0)
#1958 F29 Change: Xfce 4.13 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1958 DECISION (+7, 0, 0)
#1965 Mass retiring packages that still require Python 3.6 in Fedora 29 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1965 DECISION (+7, 0, 0)
= Summary/Minutes =
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-20/fesco.2018-08-... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-20/fesco.2018-08-... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-08-20/fesco.2018-08-...
Meeting summary --------------- * init process (maxamillion, 15:01:46)
* #1935 Remove packages which has a consistent bad security record from the distribution. (maxamillion, 15:04:15) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935 (maxamillion, 15:04:15) * AGREED: - Postpone decision until next week, awaiting zbyszek's proposal in ticket (+5, -0, +0) (maxamillion, 15:27:47)
* #1955 Let's get rid of filedeps (FESCo edition) (maxamillion, 15:28:00) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1955 (maxamillion, 15:28:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/714 (nirik, 15:33:51) * AGREED: ask dnf folks to put lazy loading (or reduced repodata loads) on their roadmap, close ticket (+1: 5, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 15:46:00)
* #1962 F29 Change: Cloud Provider Image Updates (maxamillion, 15:46:09) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1962 (maxamillion, 15:46:10) * AGREED: F29 Change: Cloud Provider Image Updates - Approved by in-ticket votes (+1: 6, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 15:56:31)
* #1964 Nonresponsive maintainer: wolnei (kio-gdrive) (maxamillion, 15:56:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1964 (maxamillion, 15:56:45) * AGREED: reassign wolnei (kio-gdrive) packages (+1: 5, +0: 0, -1: 0) (maxamillion, 16:01:24)
* #1967 Fedora 29 incomplete changes (maxamillion, 16:01:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1967 (maxamillion, 16:01:36) * AGREED: Defer mpfr to Fedora 30 (+1: 5, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 16:08:26) * ACTION: zbyszek to talk to change owner about sponsorship (zbyszek, 16:19:17) * AGREED: defer "update festival to 2.5" until next week, zbyszek to take point on following up (+1: 6, +0: 0, -1: 0) (maxamillion, 16:20:00) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Label_Our_Variants#Contingency_Plan (bowlofeggs, 16:24:01) * AGREED: Label Out Variants will be go with Contingency Plan 1 if not completed by beta freeze (+1: 5, -1: 0, +0: 1) (maxamillion, 16:33:02) * AGREED: allow a week to get an update on the state of Merge Dstat And Performance Co-Pilot (+1: 5, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 16:37:32) * Stop building 389-ds-base on i686 is actually complete and no longer requires discussion as an incomplete Change (maxamillion, 16:38:47) * LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/631 (dustymabe, 16:43:14) * AGREED: wait one more week for a status update on Silverblue rename (+1: 6, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 16:48:04)
* #1968 Proposed F30 Schedule (maxamillion, 16:49:08) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1968 (maxamillion, 16:49:08) * AGREED: F30 Schedule (+1: 6, -1: 0, +0: 0) (maxamillion, 16:52:29)
* #1969 Nonresponsive maintainer: dbmacartney (maxamillion, 16:52:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1969 (maxamillion, 16:52:37) * AGREED: Nonresponsive maintainer: dbmacartney was handled in ticket, no discussion necessary (maxamillion, 16:53:26)
* Next week's chair (maxamillion, 16:53:38) * ACTION: contyk to chair next week's meeting (maxamillion, 16:55:13)
* Open Floor (maxamillion, 16:55:16)
Meeting ended at 17:19:53 UTC.
Action Items ------------ * zbyszek to talk to change owner about sponsorship * contyk to chair next week's meeting
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
#1957 F29 Change: Liberation Fonts 2 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1957 DECISION (+6, 0, 0)
Sigh!
Really nothing has changed since the decision in Fedora 19 to stick with Liberation 1, only 4 years have passed without any changes whatsoever to the "Liberation 2" fonts.
Liberation 1 is no longer developed upstream, but as far as I can tell, neither is Liberation 2.
"Liberation 2" fonts are essentially rebranded Google Croscore fonts. And those Google Croscore fonts are, in fact, already packaged in Fedora (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/google-croscore-fonts). Why can't we just let Liberation be Liberation and Croscore be Croscore?
Kevin Kofler
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 at 17:02, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
#1957 F29 Change: Liberation Fonts 2 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1957 DECISION (+6, 0, 0)
Sigh!
Really nothing has changed since the decision in Fedora 19 to stick with Liberation 1, only 4 years have passed without any changes whatsoever to the "Liberation 2" fonts.
Liberation 1 is no longer developed upstream, but as far as I can tell, neither is Liberation 2.
Agree not much happened in upstream. Its because i was busy in other project and also conflict between Liberation 1 and 2. Basic idea behind Liberation 2 was to stop bug fixing on Liberation 1 and develop 2 for future. But still we were using Liberation 1. Now, we have new maintainer for Liberation Fonts and with clear direction for Liberation 2, he will do the required bug-fixes and enhancements into it. He is already working on adding BitCoin glyph to it.
"Liberation 2" fonts are essentially rebranded Google Croscore fonts.
No, Liberation 2 are not just re-branded. We have done bug-fixing and also added Serbian language support into it. [1]
And
those Google Croscore fonts are, in fact, already packaged in Fedora (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/google-croscore-fonts). Why can't we just let Liberation be Liberation and Croscore be Croscore?
Unlike Liberation, Google just released .ttf version for there fonts. I have not see any way, to fix issues in Noto upstream [2] and rebuilt that .ttf. In Liberation 2, we have source file .sfd, one can fix, provide patch.
Thanks Kevin for raising this point, i assure will get more development on Liberation 2 soon. Bug list for Liberation 2 [3]
Thanks, Pravin Satpute
1. https://github.com/liberationfonts/liberation-fonts/commits/master 2. https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts/tree/master/hinted 3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGN...
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