[Fwd: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora]
by itamar
forwarding message from Rodrigo Padula
any chance to increase the life of fedora releases ?
or fedora will be only blending edge ?
In my opinion fedora is losing space from centos and ubuntu
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Subject: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:42:55 -0300
From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org>
Reply-To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user
base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
<fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
Hello Guys!
Read this bad news:
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1474805050;fp;16;fpid;1
This is happening frequently. I think we will have to revise some things
within the project, particularly the creation of a Legacy project or a
Fedora LTS.
The brazilian government, one of the biggest Fedora Case of the world is
changing from Fedora/ Red Hat to Ubuntu/Debian.
We need to think and create a solution to give support by a long time or
the fedora user will decrease!
My 0,02
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15 years, 7 months
rawhide report: 20081023 changes
by Fedora compose checker
Compose started at Thu Oct 23 06:01:10 UTC 2008
New package e16-keyedit
GUI for editing keybindings in Enlightenment, DR16
New package logstalgia
Web server access log visualizer
New package remoot
ReMoot is a remote control wrapper
New package tcl-tcludp
Tcl extension for UDP support
New package tcl-tclvfs
Tcl extension for Virtual Filesystem support
New package tcl-tileqt
QT widget support for Tile Toolkit
Updated Packages:
akonadi-1.0.0-4.fc10
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* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> 1.0.0-4
- drop Requires: mysql-server (for now), mention in %description
amsn-0.97-4.fc10
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* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Hans de Goede <hdegoede(a)redhat.com> - 0.97-4
- Patch the webcam part to use libv4l so that it will work with the new gspca
driver in F-10
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15 years, 7 months
fedora-wiki list for wiki users and contributors
by Ian Weller
Hi all,
A new moderate-traffic mailing list for users and contributors of the
Fedora Project Wiki has been set up.
Among the discussions will be policy, announcements, and editing tips.
The list has been created to bring together the wider wiki community
split apart between different sub-projects of Fedora.
If you are interested in these sorts of discussions, please subscribe to
fedora-wiki(a)lists.fedoraproject.org at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-wiki
We'll be glad to see you!
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15 years, 7 months
Re: [Fwd: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora]
by David G. Mackay
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 17:20 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:03:07AM -0500, David G. Mackay wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 08:39 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > Unanswered:
> > > > Is there similar outrage against upstreams as well? Where is
it?
> >
> > On this list, it's shouted down. I commented some time ago about
the
> > rather toxic behavior of the python developers vis-a-vis breaking
> > compatibility at virtually every release. You would have thought
that I
> > had urinated in the holy water.
> >
> > It's an ugly little wart on the free software movement. There's
nowhere
> > near the incentive to take care of your user base without a direct
> > financial gain. Not, mind you, that commercial ventures haven't
done
> > the same, but the consequences to them are more severe and direct.
>
> You don't get to dictate what the upstream project's priorities are.
Dictate, no, criticize, yes.
> If you don't like the fact that apps break with every new python
> release (I don't like it either), then pick a different programming
> language with an upstream whose priorities better align with your
> needs. eg, Perl or Java or OCaml or any number of other languages.
Well, for me, it means that I will use python for smaller projects, and
probably java for large/persistent projects. However, there are ripple
effects in that people that have developed tools that I want to use in
python, i. e. zope, are also placed in an untenable position.
> Open source is about freedom of choice & that applies to everyone,
> users, developers, packagers alike. The python developers/community
> have decided the level of stability they want between each of their
> releases - they decided to accept a certain level of breakage. You
> have the freedom to decide whether this matches your needs and if
> not, no one is forcing you to use python.
True, but that cuts both ways. If one of the goals is to get more
people to use open source, then making sure that it is usable ought to
be something of a priority. If enterprises are going to make major
investments to develop software, then the current state of turmoil in
the open source software ecology is not attractive.
Dave
15 years, 7 months
directfb version bump (with ABI bump)
by Nicolas Chauvet
Hello!
I would just warn the fedora-devel ml that a version bump for directfb
is scheduled before the end of the week.
This update has been tracked in this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456509
With this new version comes an ABI bump from the previous 1.0.0. thus, a
rebuild of dependents packages is required.
Here is the list of the dependent(s) package(s):
xine-lib-extras
So, this is more a warning if some packages would use the directfb
binaries directly for any reasons, and for third parties.
Specially:
gstreamer-plugins-bad
Nicolas (kwizart)
15 years, 7 months
rawhide report: 20081022 changes
by Fedora compose checker
Compose started at Wed Oct 22 14:38:16 UTC 2008
New package openlayers
A JavaScript library for displaying map data in web browsers
Removed package qpackagekit
Updated Packages:
MAKEDEV-3.24-1
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* Wed Oct 22 18:00:00 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens(a)redhat.com> 3.24-1
- Fix speed up patch (jakub, #466485).
NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn4201.fc10
--------------------------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> - 1:0.7.0-0.11.svn4201
- Fix issues with hostname during anaconda installation (rh #461933)
- Fix Ad-Hoc WPA connections (rh #461197)
- Don't require gnome-panel or gnome-panel-devel (rh #427834)
- Fix determination of WPA encryption capabilities on some cards
- Fix conflicts with PPTP and vpnc plugins
- Allow .cer file extensions when choosing certificates
PackageKit-0.3.8-2.fc10
-----------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)fedoraproject.org> - 0.3.8-2
- Obsoletes: packagekit-qt(-devel)/qpackagekit(-devel)
- cleanup deps
augeas-0.3.2-1.fc10
-------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 David Lutterkort <dlutter(a)redhat.com> - 0.3.2-1
- New version
bluez-4.16-1.fc10
-----------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera(a)redhat.com> - 4.16-11
- Update to 4.16
coreutils-6.12-16.fc10
----------------------
* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ondrej Vasik <ovasik(a)redhat.com> - 6.12-16
- make possible to disable capability in ls due to
performance impact when not cached(#467508)
- do not patch generated manpages - generate them at build
time
- do not mistakenly display -g and -G runuser option in su
--help output
cups-1.3.9-2.fc10
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* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.3.9-2
- Fixed textonly filter to send FF correctly.
desktop-backgrounds-9.0.0-3
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* Tue Oct 21 18:00:00 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com> 9.0.0-3
- Move waves wallpapers to a subpackage
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15 years, 7 months
Sendmail still default?
by Lutz Lange
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Hi,
i've just wondered why sendmail is still the default MTA in Fedora.
Please enlighten me?
cheers
Lutz
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15 years, 7 months
Why does yum always need a global lock?
by Christoph Höger
Hi,
what does yum make requiring a global lock for _every_ operation as
root? I can search/info/download as normal user, while updating the
system but not as root. Why that?
Why do we need to lock yum for more than rpm transactions (shouldn't rpm
do that at all) and cache write operations?
regards
christoph
15 years, 7 months
Chaning the default icewm theme.
by Gilboa Davara
Hello all,
I maintain the icewm package under both Fedora and EPEL.
A couple of months ago I modified an existing theme to mimic the look of
Clearlooks and I'm thinking about using it as the default theme in the
next release of IceWM for both platforms.
A couple of problems/questions:
1. Should I include the theme in the main icewm package and use it as
the default theme? The theme is rather small (~27K compressed. ~600K
expanded.)
2. The Fedora theme uses the Fedora icon as it's "start" button. I tried
contacting the Fedora-legal theme and get their permission to use this
icon - but got no replays. Do I require explicit permissions to use this
icon? (I've got the same problem in RHEL/CentOS - but I'll ask the same
question in the EPEL ML.)
3. I was thinking about circumventing the legal/distribution issue by
adding a BR to the default theme on each of the platforms and use the %
post scripts to create a symbolic link between the platform's "logo" and
the missing image within my theme (An ideal solution - the theme will
auto-magically use what-ever logo your
distribution/clone/liveCD/respin/etc is using), however, I couldn't find
any common ground between the different platforms. Where does Fedora
keep it's icons? RHEL/CentOS?
Thanks in advance,
- Gilboa
15 years, 7 months
