On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 10:51 +0000, Christopher Brown wrote:
> On 30/01/2008, Lex Hider <floss(a)lex.hider.name> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was wanting to do some bug triage for fedora.
>> I checked out the list of NEW bugs for one of my favourite apps: amarok.
>> There seemed a pretty obvious bug that could now be closed:
>>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=248625
>>
>> I tried to close it and found I didn't have the privileges to do so.
>> I asked on #fedora-devel and was pointed to the triage team wiki page
>> and that I need a Fedora Account.
>>
>> Apparently to open a Fedora account I need to give my postal address and
>> telephone number. Why is it necessary to give this personal information
>> just to close a bug?
>>
>> Contrast to other projects I have contributed to where some realizes you
>> know what you are doing or get sick of you pestering to close bugs on
>> your behalf and give you the relevant privileges.
>>
>> Here's an example of my bug closing credentials:
>> Look at Bug Killers:
>>
http://www.commit-digest.org/issues/2006-04-30/
> Hello Lex,
>
> Great that you're wanting to do some triage work and yeah, that bug is
> the kind of stuff that we don't need hanging around any longer. :)
>
> As for the information side of things, FAS is used for a number of
> things, including the ability to create packages in Fedora and there
> has to, at some point, be some accountability for how this happens.
> With bugzilla triage privs you get the ability to modify to great
> extent the bugs in Red Hat's main bug tracking system so I think its
> understandable for this to be asked. Someone with legal knowledge
> might want to add to this though.
>
> Best place to hang out for triaging is #fedora-qa on IRC and the two
> bods leading the charge are John Poelstra and Jon Stanley.
>
>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnPoelstra
>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JonStanley
>
> We have a meeting today at 1700 UTC in #fedora-meeting - would be good
> to have you there as well.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Christopher Brown
I think that meeting is around 4am local time, so I may have to give it
a miss. Perhaps you could put on the agenda how high the barrier for
entry is. Not only do I have to create a separate Fedora account aside
form the bugzilla that I have, I have to give out my personal details,
and then I have to learn enough about gpg to make a key to sign up for
the account.
If I have to jump through all the above hoops just to close trivial
bugs, I'm not sure if I'll bother.
I can see no reason why anyone would need my address and phone number.
What is stopping anyone from putting in fake ones.
I was tempted just to enter address as something like:
27 Gumdrop House
Lolly Pop Lane.
(
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/owww-look-at-me-marge-i-m-making-people-h...)
Surely entering the phone number and address details is useless without
verification anyway.
I believe that we're removing the necessity for having an address and
phone number in FAS2 (although having an alternate form of contact is
definitely a good thing for many of the things people do in Fedora).
GPG signing of the CLA is a legal requirement of becoming a
"contributor". Whether a bug triager must be a "contributor" in this
sense is up to Jon Stanley and John Poelstra to decide at this point as
they're running the new triaging effort.
-Toshio