Am Donnerstag, den 29.01.2009, 06:25 -0500 schrieb Behdad Esfahbod:
Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> I think what Robert and me wanted to express is: It's not only that some
> (!) people from RH do not follow the guidelines but some also explicitly
> refuse to follow them even after they were told them what's wrong. I
> have no explanation for that kind of behavior but arrogance.
I have a very unpleasant experience with a community maintainer over a package
we co-maintained and that I'm the upstream. Do I extrapolate that to all
non-RH people? No.
Me nether, I repeatedly used the word "some".
Stop discriminating already. If an RH person doesn't
follow Fedora rules and guidelines, follow the standard Fedora procedures to
deal with them.
The standard procedure would be to
a) close the review NOTABUG or
b) follow the AWOL procedure if reporter does not respond.
Please show me a single case where we (community AND/OR Red Hat)
successfully applied a) or b) to a RH employee.
Stop whining. Please.
I'll shut up if you can show me such a case.
>> Most of what is seen as "Red Hat guys are bad at
packaging" is simply baggage
>> held from the Core days.
>
> Agreed, but we've had merge reviews with proposals for enhancements and
> fixes that did not get applied by the owner. I have never ever seen this
> from a community member. If someone did, his review request would be
> closed "WONTFIX" pretty soon, but this isn't possible for merge
reviews.
Sure. That's a problem with the merge review procedure perhaps? Definitely
not something to blame the poor RH developer for.
It's not only the merge reviews. I can show you bugs where a package was
broken for a whole release and the bug was closed "WONTFIX" because the
package was EOL then. Looking at my bugzilla frontpage I see a couple of
bugs that are older than a year and still new or already closed.
Assignees were not even responding when I set NEEDINFO. _All_ these bugs
are assigned to Red Hat developers, _not_a_single_ of them to a
community maintainer. How comes?
Regards,
Christoph