On 15. 02. 19 14:14, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:46 AM Florian Weimer
<fweimer(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * Fabio Valentini:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 3:23 PM Florian Weimer <fweimer(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> * Fabio Valentini:
>>>
>>>> In the past few weeks, it has come up regularly that future
>>>> "module-only" packages are orphaned (and hence will soon be
retired),
>>>> and nobody stepped up to fix this issue - especially for non-leaf
>>>> packages. I don't think fedora as a project has a solution for this
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to create a "Stewardship" Group / SIG that will take
care of
>>>> such packages - either until a new main maintainer steps up, or until
>>>> modularity matures enough so it won't be necessary anymore. (Or,
until
>>>> it dies a quiet death, which is always a possibility.) However, I
>>>> think this is necessary until the situation stabilizes.
>>>
>>> The name sounds very confusing to me, considering that this seems to be
>>> specific to modular content.
>>
>> That's why I'm asking for comments. I failed to come up with a better
>> name, though.
>>
>> This Group / SIG would provide "classic" maintainership for otherwise
>> semi-abandoned packages that only live on as franken-packages
>> ("modules"), until the remaining shortcomings of modules are overcome,
>> or until they are abandoned.
>
> It's still not clear to me what this group is supposed to do.
>
> Does the group produce modular or non-modular content? What would
> qualify a package for maintenance by this group?
>
> Why don't we need this in a non-module context? Why do modules require
> such a group?
>
This group would be for maintaining packages that are modularized in a
non-module context so that it's actually usable by the broader
ecosystem. Modules are not usable for non-module packages, and third
parties building on top of Fedora can't use modules at all either.
Since module developers don't care about these users, this SIG will.
How can I help solve this(*) on FESCo level?
I think this is tearing Fedora apart.
However we cannot forbid packagers to orphan their packages.
(*) that module developers don't care about these users
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