On 09/27/2018 04:34 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:39 PM Mikolaj Izdebski
<mizdebsk(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Java SIG is dying slowly, this package set recently lost another
> co-maintainer and I don't have time to maintain all these packages by
> myself. Switching to module-only content is probably the best move to
> keep high-quality software delivered to our users and reduce maintenance
> work at the same time.
Have you done *anything* to try to reinvigorate the Java SIG? I've not
seen anything at all about this problem.
No, not anything aimed specifically at this. I am monitoring various
channels and help people that try to contribute to Fedora, not only to
Java stuff, if that counts.
Do Java folks in the
ecosystem who happen to use RH/Fedora ecosystem stuff know about it?
From what I experienced, people in Java ecosystem are rarely interested
in packaging Java for Linux distros.
Are you doing any outreach/advocacy either across the distro
ecosystem
or across the Java ecosystem to try to bring interested people in
helping with Java stack work?
No, I'm not doing any kind of such activities - TBH human interaction is
not amongst my best skills.
With Rust, we elected to try to become part of the Rust ecosystem, and
we've also taken the tack of working with other distributions to be
able to leverage the efforts across distros to make things better. We
are in the process of reviving the Go SIG in a similar manner. There's
no reason Java couldn't too. And unlike Rust and Go, people *need*
Java for both legacy and new things! Java can be exciting and
interesting, but some effort has to be made to "get the word out".
Many things we do for Java packaging is distro-agnostic and I always
wanted to have some cross-distro cooperation, but I never had enough
time to start connecting with other distros for real.
The Python SIG also does a decent job talking about itself and
showing
up at Python events to talk about how Fedora loves Python. Do we love
Java too?
That's a good idea, thanks. Maybe having a packaging-oriented talk at
some Java conference would help a bit with current situation.
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