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On 03/28/2013 12:47 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
One disclaimer to start off --
We're on a big tangent here. If I understood the original poster
correctly, he'd concerned about what we name parallel installable
versions of packages rather than whether we should have parallel
installable packages at all.
That said, there's a lot to say about parallel installable packages
so I'll jump in here.
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 08:31:22AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On 03/28/2013 08:30 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
>> On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
>>>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
>>>
>>> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just
>>> excuses. And I asked already several times to have some way
>>> to reliable support multiple version of packages without
>>> mangling their names.
>>
>> Víťo, I certainly understand your frustration, as it comes
>> from talking about this topic over and over again. However
>> Ruby community is a *very* special case in this regard and I'd
>> like to treat it as such.
>>
>> If you want, we can start a discussion here. But if we do,
>> let's keep the discussion strictly constructive and just about
>> *technical* problems. Let's not take this to design level of
>> things, as Ruby and Fedora are two completely different worlds
>> that will never be fully compatible by design. Therefore the
>> final solution (if there is any) has to be some sort of
>> compromise.
>>
>
> It's not just Ruby that has these issues, though. To take a
> python example: Django. Most Django packages are built against a
> specific minor version of Django, and the Django upstream
> regularly breaks backwards compatibility with those minor
> releases.
>
> It ends up requiring Fedora to carry multiple copies of
> python-django in the repo, usually versioning the older ones (so
> in the current situation, we have python-django and
> python-django14, with python-django referring to Django 1.5)
Note: Is this a hypothetical? I'm unable to find a
python-django14 (or other versioned python-django) package build in
koji.
Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. This was discussed on the thread
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-February/179185.html
a while ago. The general sense was that we would function as above. I
then promptly forgot that the package review hadn't yet been finished
for python-django14.
I'm about to approve that review, unless this is being deemed
unacceptable by FPC (though it's not really in the guidelines).
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