Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Ralf Corsepius
<rc040203(a)freenet.de> wrote:
> Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> Actually, I feel s-c-network should be revived and NetworkManager be made
>>> strictly optional.
>> I'd actually have to disagree. I *love* NM on my Asus (netbook).
> Congratulations.
>
> For me,
> - NM doesn't work on any machine w/ WLAN
> - NM is just bloated ballast on machines w/o WLAN
I believe you are in a very small minority with that view.
Please stop using this
ole bolshevist argument. Just because you don't
see a problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem.
>> It's
>>
>> great for laptops (or other computers that tend to move around and need to
>> deal with "foreign" networks,
> Seemingly it's sufficiently functional for some people in such situation. I
> don't have such demands.
It's more than functional for most people in most situations.
>> especially wireless networks), and it's "okay" for desktops.
> Yes, it works "sufficiently" on my desktops, but ... at which price?
> ... Instability caused by silly "dark magic",
Oh please.
... Yes, NM is responsible for pulling in dozens of unnecessary
daemons/services.
> ... no cli
> ... no network profiles
Both valid concerns.
IMO, both hard show stoppers, disqualifying NM from being branded a
replacement for s-c-networking.
> ... bloat
Made up over used word thrown around as as a subject non specific
critic of any software someone doesn't like
Do yourself a favor and check how
much bloat (and potential sources
errors and vulnerabilities) NM pulls in.
In case you haven't noticed yet: In comparison to s-c-networking, this
list is very long.
> My network isn't compliated (static IPs, static topologic, yp
based autofs,
> DHCP).
> It's just that NM can't handle it properly.
Since I've been told that NM can handle static IPs now, i don't see
why any of the above would be a problem.
"told" is the key word ...
reality speaks a different language.
The problem with it: Due to NM's black magic and the huge set of
services it is trying to interact with, it's very difficult to identify
the origin of problems.
One prominent and well-known case many people have complained about:
NM's way of dns handling.
Ralf