On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 13:23 +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08/30/2012 08:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Bill Nottingham (notting(a)redhat.com) said:
>> Olaf Kirch (okir(a)suse.de) said:
>>> On Wednesday 29 August 2012 21:56:45 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
>>>> On 08/29/2012 11:58 AM, Olaf Kirch wrote:
>>>>> Your feedback is very much welcome!
>>>>
>>>> The network management/solution of the future most likely ( at least
>>>> will need to ) be something that is integrated into ( or with )
>>>> systemd/Core OS
>>>
>>> Indeed, and that's where I'd like to go. Which is one of the
reasons
>>> for choosing dbus as the transport.
>>
>> The systemd people do have some ideas they've already been kicking around
>> for this already... have you seen it?
>
> To be clear, I'm not really convinced yet that this is something we need...
> there is a lot of legacy admin overhead and infrastructure that is highly
> resistant to change here.
Speaking as an admin I think something needs to happen here. The current
shell script/NetworkManager chimera is really ugly since they don't
cooperate well I really wished things would go one way or the other or
someone would come up with something that replaces both but I consider the
current situation as a worst case scenario.
We're working on that in the NM space, with management modes in between
"unmanaged" and "fully managed". For whatever reason, we'll never
be in
a position where one or the other solution "wins", so we'll have to
figure out ways to coexist. And obviously the goal is to get better
than the current situation.
Dan