Re: F24 System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork (fwd)
I did get a response from Jeff Ortel (Suds upstream and Fedora maintainer)
with his input on this proposal (forwarded with his permission).
Regards,
Scott
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 12:18:45 -0600
From: Jeff Ortel <jortel(a)redhat.com>
To: Scott Talbert <swt(a)techie.net>
Subject: Re: F24 System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork (fwd)
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Hey Scott,
No worries. As you know, I am both the upstream and package maintainer. I have not been
actively
maintaining it for some time now. Mainly because it requires a significant time
commitment. A commitment
to a thorough understand of a number of complicated specifications (SOAP, WSDL, XSD). A
commitment to
investigating tickets for root causes and to providing solutions that are supported by
specification. A
commitment to extensive regression testing against a wide variety of web services and
engines that interpret
the specifications in slightly different ways. It's easy to change the code in a way
the fixes one
ticket/bugzilla (web service) but breaks 100 others. I can no longer make this commitment
and decided that
my involvement would likely do more harm than good. That said, it would be good if
python-suds was based on
an actively maintained project.
I am unfamiliar with how this type if request plays out. My expectation would be that the
community
(especially dependent packages) would have the opportunity to test against the rebased
python-suds in
rawhide and somehow vote to proceed. Is this true? How confident are you in making this
change? Do you
believe the jurko/suds fork has the level of commitment to stability I described above?
Please be assured that I welcome the proposed change provided it's best for the entire
Fedora community.
Further, I appreciate your making the proposal.
Thanks,
Jeff
On 01/04/2016 08:41 AM, Scott Talbert wrote:
Hi Jeff,
I apologize - I should have contacted you before submitting this proposal.
Anyway, I am proposing moving to Jurko's Suds fork in Fedora 24. Do you have any
objections or feedback
on that change? Do you have any objections to having me at least as a co-maintainer of
the package?
Thanks, Scott
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<devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: F24 System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork
= Proposed System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Suds_Jurko_Fork
Change owner(s): * Scott Talbert <swt AT techie DOT net >
Change the python-suds package to use the fork maintained by Jurko Gospodnetić.
== Detailed Description == Suds is a SOAP-based web service client for Python which is
currently packaged
in Fedora as python-suds. This change proposal aims to update the python-suds package to
use the fork
maintained by Jurko Gospodnetić. Currently Fedora has the original version of Suds which
has not been
maintained or updated since 2011. The original version does not support Python 3.
== Scope == Proposal owners: * Update existing python-suds package to suds-jurko and
ensure it
builds/works in Rawhide. (NOTE: proposal owner is not currently the maintainer of
python-suds, but would
intend to assume maintainership as part of this change.) The plan is to use the latest hg
snapshot of
suds-jurko. * In conjunction with the python-suds dependent package maintainers, help
test dependent
packages to ensure they work correctly with the new package.
Other developers: * For maintainers of packages that depend on python-suds: test the
dependent packages
to ensure they work correctly with the updated python-suds package. No changes should be
needed as the
Jurko fork is believed to maintain compatibility with the original Suds.
Release engineering: None
List of deliverables: None
Policies and guidelines: None
Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
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