On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:46:35 -0800 Matthew Dharm mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net wrote:
The problem is that there are a ton more devices that need modeswitching than just Huawei, and upstream USB developers are refusing to take patches that add more devices to the kernel modeswitching code because they assert it should be done in userspace. []
Who are these mysterious kernel developers? You don't happen to have any e-mail saved?
I'm one of those developers. We've hashed this out before. I'm pretty sure Greg's with me on this one. If the device can be handled in userspace, then it should be. If it's storage emulation mode is not good enough to handle in userspace, then a kernel update will have to be done.
OK, that sounds good. So, I withdraw objections after Rahul's question, as far as Fedora is concerned.
On the kernel side, should we discard all the cruft un unusual_devs.h?
-- Pete
On 03/05/2010 02:55 AM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
OK, that sounds good. So, I withdraw objections after Rahul's question, as far as Fedora is concerned.
Great Dan Williams - Does it make sense to add as a dependency to ModemManager or should I add it to comps?
Rahul
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Hi, I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
Let me know if you guys need anything fixed on that :)
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On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:42 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:
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Hi, I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
Let me know if you guys need anything fixed on that :)
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 10:05 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:42 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:
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Hi, I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't switch, I just never had the time to give usb_modeswitch any love.
Dan
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 22:27 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 10:05 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:42 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:
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Hi, I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't switch, I just never had the time to give usb_modeswitch any love.
No reason at all it shouldn't go in F13 at least. Just submit it...
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:27:48 -0800 Dan Williams dcbw@redhat.com wrote:
I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't switch, I just never had the time to give usb_modeswitch any love.
One last thing: Dan, is it your page at this URL: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband
It says:
Huawei
Most Huawei devices are handled automatically by the kernel. If the 'option' driver which handles Huawei devices lacks the USB IDs of your device, the correct solution is to add those IDs to the kernel driver by submitting a patch to your distribution's bugzilla or Linux Kernel Mailing List. If your device is not yet recognized, you can eject the fake driver CD with usb_modeswitch, and bind the generic usbserial driver manually to the device (see below).
Someone filed a bug about this today: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571542
-- Pete
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:07 -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:27:48 -0800 Dan Williams dcbw@redhat.com wrote:
I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't switch, I just never had the time to give usb_modeswitch any love.
One last thing: Dan, is it your page at this URL: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband
It says:
Huawei
Most Huawei devices are handled automatically by the kernel. If the 'option' driver which handles Huawei devices lacks the USB IDs of your device, the correct solution is to add those IDs to the kernel driver by submitting a patch to your distribution's bugzilla or Linux Kernel Mailing List. If your device is not yet recognized, you can eject the fake driver CD with usb_modeswitch, and bind the generic usbserial driver manually to the device (see below).
Someone filed a bug about this today: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571542
Thanks, I'll correct that text.
Dan
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:03 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:07 -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:27:48 -0800 Dan Williams dcbw@redhat.com wrote:
I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now.
And F-13?
I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the bugs when modems don't switch, I just never had the time to give usb_modeswitch any love.
One last thing: Dan, is it your page at this URL: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband
It says:
Huawei
Most Huawei devices are handled automatically by the kernel. If the 'option' driver which handles Huawei devices lacks the USB IDs of your device, the correct solution is to add those IDs to the kernel driver by submitting a patch to your distribution's bugzilla or Linux Kernel Mailing List. If your device is not yet recognized, you can eject the fake driver CD with usb_modeswitch, and bind the generic usbserial driver manually to the device (see below).
Someone filed a bug about this today: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571542
Thanks, I'll correct that text.
Text clarified.
Dan
On 03/05/2010 02:55 AM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
OK, that sounds good. So, I withdraw objections after Rahul's question, as far as Fedora is concerned.
I have added it to the hardware support group as a default package for Fedora 13.
Rahul
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram metherid@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 02:55 AM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
OK, that sounds good. So, I withdraw objections after Rahul's question, as far as Fedora is concerned.
I have added it to the hardware support group as a default package for Fedora 13.
Just to be sure: do this mean users with those dongles should have a "works out of the box" experience with NetworkManager in F13?
On 03/19/2010 04:26 PM, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
Just to be sure: do this mean users with those dongles should have a "works out of the box" experience with NetworkManager in F13?
I don't know that. I believe it requires NM/ModemManager changes but atleast it would be easier to do the manual configuration if that is still required.
Rahul
On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 00:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/19/2010 04:26 PM, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
Just to be sure: do this mean users with those dongles should have a "works out of the box" experience with NetworkManager in F13?
I don't know that. I believe it requires NM/ModemManager changes but atleast it would be easier to do the manual configuration if that is still required.
If the device is supported by NM/ModemManager post-modeswitch (which most are) then yes, the experience should be out-of-the-box Just Works. The #1 reason it doesn't Just Work is modeswitching, which until now was not automatic for many devices.
Dan
On 03/23/2010 02:36 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
If the device is supported by NM/ModemManager post-modeswitch (which most are) then yes, the experience should be out-of-the-box Just Works. The #1 reason it doesn't Just Work is modeswitching, which until now was not automatic for many devices.
Just to clarify, does ModemManager need to depend on usb_modeswitch?
Rahul
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Just to clarify, does ModemManager need to depend on usb_modeswitch?
It currently does not. Dan, I guess its not such a bad idea to make it depend?
Rahul
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