===================================== #fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2020-06-15) =====================================

Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-06-15/fesco.2020-06-...

Meeting summary --------------- * init process (contyk, 15:00:33)

* Welcome new FESCo members & Meeting time (contyk, 15:02:15) * The new meeting time is Wednesday, 1400 UTC, starting June 24. (contyk, 15:18:33)

* Council Engineering Representative (contyk, 15:21:17) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fedora_Council_Engineering_Rep/ (contyk, 15:21:33) * contyk will step down from the Council Engineering representative position; FESCo will process the nominations in #2405 over the next week. (contyk, 15:24:20)

* #2400 F34 System-Wide Change: NSS CK_GCM_PARAMS change (contyk, 15:24:55) * AGREED: FESCo asks rrelyea to rephrase the request and add details about the expected impact, particularly on rebuilds and revisit in a week (+8, 0, -0) (contyk, 15:34:38)

* What is the scope of Modularity? (contyk, 15:35:03) * AGREED: Modular-only packages are not allowed and modular versions are only be allowed as alternatives to non-modular packages. (+9, 0, -0) (contyk, 15:58:47) * There is an exception to this rule: if the package does not function in non-modular Fedora (with reasonable amount of work), it is permitted to have it in module only. As an example if non-modular Fedora has dnf 4, and there is module with dnf 5, a package that only works with dnf 5 can remain modular only, until dnf 5 is included in non-modular Fedora. For the time being, such (contyk, 15:58:54) * AGREED: Default streams are not allowed in Fedora. This may be revised in the future, especially if the functionality of default streams is improved. (+9, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:00:26) * AGREED: Encourage compatibility packages rather than modules wherever reasonable (e.g., libraries, language interpreters, …, and anything that can benefit from parallel installability). (+9, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:02:07) * AGREED: Make *modular*.repo optional by splitting them into a separate package. (+8, 1, -0) (contyk, 16:03:24) * AGREED: Disable *modular*.repo by default in new installations. (2, 0, -7) (contyk, 16:04:58) * Modular repo will remain enabled. (contyk, 16:05:05) * AGREED: Defer to the next meeting. Meanwhile sgallagh will work on improving policy for those modules with feedback from FESCo members. (+9, 0, -0) (contyk, 16:52:36) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... is the case on fedora-devel today. (zbyszek, 16:52:38)

* Next week's chair (contyk, 16:52:56) * ACTION: ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting. (contyk, 16:53:25)

* Open Floor (contyk, 16:53:32) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/ is not getting updated. (zbyszek, 16:55:06) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8964 (bcotton, 16:56:54)

Meeting ended at 16:59:24 UTC.

Action Items ------------ * ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting.

Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ignatenkobrain * ignatenkobrain will chair the next meeting.

People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mhroncok (153) * sgallagh (120) * contyk (107) * zbyszek (70) * nirik (57) * King_InuYasha (54) * ignatenkobrain (51) * dcantrell (49) * zodbot (34) * cverna (30) * decathorpe (28) * bookwar (21) * bcotton (9) * Conan_Kudo (0) * Eighth_Doctor (0) * Sir_Gallantmon (0) * Son_Goku (0) * Pharaoh_Atem (0)