10:22 a.m.
Hi
Is there still interest in creating a Fedora Games spin. I might be able
to cook up a kickstart file easily and we can aim to have one along with
the Fedora 8 release.
Btw, is anyone working on packaging http://openquartz.sourceforge.net/?
Rahul
10:05 a.m.
Hi
Is there still interest in creating a Fedora Games spin. I might be able
to cook up a kickstart file easily and we can aim to have one along with
the Fedora 8 release.
That'd be great. We were toying with a liveCD:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/GamesLiveCD
I;d imagine you could start there.
Btw, is anyone working on packaging
http://openquartz.sourceforge.net/?
Not currently, but it's on the SIG Wishlist. I'll put it on my todo list,
unless someone else has started.
Rahul
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12:14 p.m.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
Is there still interest in creating a Fedora Games spin. I might be able
to cook up a kickstart file easily and we can aim to have one along with
the Fedora 8 release.
Yes that would definitely be a good spin to have!
We have been playing with the idea, but sofar none of us has found the time (or
the bandwidth need for composing in a reasonable time in my case).
Basicly one could take the live cd and add all packages in the games groups in
comps, we already agreed that a dvd would be best / is almost unavoidable.
Regards,
Hans
1:58 p.m.
On 9/11/07, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl> wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> Is there still interest in creating a Fedora Games spin. I might be able
> to cook up a kickstart file easily and we can aim to have one along with
> the Fedora 8 release.
>
Yes that would definitely be a good spin to have!
We have been playing with the idea, but sofar none of us has found the time (or
the bandwidth need for composing in a reasonable time in my case).
Basicly one could take the live cd and add all packages in the games groups in
comps, we already agreed that a dvd would be best / is almost unavoidable.
Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
1:37 p.m.
On 9/11/07, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl> wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Is there still interest in creating a Fedora Games spin. I might be
> able
> > to cook up a kickstart file easily and we can aim to have one along
> with
> > the Fedora 8 release.
> >
>
> Yes that would definitely be a good spin to have!
>
> We have been playing with the idea, but sofar none of us has found the
> time (or
> the bandwidth need for composing in a reasonable time in my case).
>
> Basicly one could take the live cd and add all packages in the games
> groups in
> comps, we already agreed that a dvd would be best / is almost
> unavoidable.
Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
If we have room, but I'd cut in in favor of more games if we need the
space. Or, hell, have the libs for both and install xfce. :)P
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2:05 p.m.
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Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
I wouldn't do that as it rapidly consumes a lot of space you'll need for
the games.
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> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
>
I wouldn't do that as it rapidly consumes a lot of space you'll need for
the games.
So whats the plan then? We put both KDE and GNOME on it now if it
fits. Then we reduce to just GNOME and then to just XFCE? Does
anyone have space requirements for minimal KDE, GNOME, XFCE installs?
2:31 p.m.
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> Christopher Stone wrote:
>> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
>>
> I wouldn't do that as it rapidly consumes a lot of space you'll need for
> the games.
So whats the plan then? We put both KDE and GNOME on it now if it
fits. Then we reduce to just GNOME and then to just XFCE? Does
anyone have space requirements for minimal KDE, GNOME, XFCE installs?
Maybe some of us could just use one or the other tool (maybe pull them
from their upstream repos and run from source) and start playing with a
kickstart file that gives you the appropriate games, desktops, other
packages and settings.
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2:14 p.m.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
The problem is that if we add the 'kdegames' package then it will pull
in almost all of kde anyway.
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12:39 a.m.
Michael Thomas wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
> point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
The problem is that if we add the 'kdegames' package then it will pull
in almost all of kde anyway.
But does make any sense to have a version of MineSweeper or Solitaire
from each GNOME *and* KDE? (and drag a lot of libraries only for such
redundant games)
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2:14 p.m.
On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
Wait, so you are saying we don't have enough room already to fit all
games and both desktops? If we remove GNOME does that also allow more
games?
And I'm still not convinced GNOME is actually smaller in size than
KDE. Why not use KDE instead of GNOME if KDE allows more games? Or
indeed, XFCE...
2:17 p.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher Stone wrote:
>
>> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
> We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
> point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
Wait, so you are saying we don't have enough room already to fit all
games and both desktops? If we remove GNOME does that also allow more
games?
We won't have enough room to fit all games anyway. Only selected games
and we will have more of those if we include less unrelated packages. I
am not very interested in a debate of which desktop environment as such.
I will go with GNOME since that is the spec I am deriving from unless
there is strong objection to that.
Rahul
1:56 p.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Christopher Stone wrote:
>>
>>> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
>> We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
>> point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
>
> Wait, so you are saying we don't have enough room already to fit all
> games and both desktops? If we remove GNOME does that also allow more
> games?
We won't have enough room to fit all games anyway. Only selected games
and we will have more of those if we include less unrelated packages. I
am not very interested in a debate of which desktop environment as such.
I will go with GNOME since that is the spec I am deriving from unless
there is strong objection to that.
+1
Or, we could always use BlackBox. (ducks)
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2:30 p.m.
On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Christopher Stone wrote:
>>
>>> Do we put both KDE and GNOME on the DVD?
>> We can but I will go with just GNOME and put in more games. There is no
>> point in having two desktop environments in a DVD showcasing games.
>
> Wait, so you are saying we don't have enough room already to fit all
> games and both desktops? If we remove GNOME does that also allow more
> games?
We won't have enough room to fit all games anyway. Only selected games
and we will have more of those if we include less unrelated packages. I
am not very interested in a debate of which desktop environment as such.
I will go with GNOME since that is the spec I am deriving from unless
there is strong objection to that.
Wow, which games take up the most space? I had no idea we had space
problems already. I thought the space problems were only for CDs. Is
there any kind of breakdown on space requirements for each game?
2:40 p.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
Wow, which games take up the most space? I had no idea we had space
problems already. I thought the space problems were only for CDs. Is
there any kind of breakdown on space requirements for each game?
I need to sync my local copy of rawhide for a complete breakdown but
usually the data package for many 3D games are considerably large.
nexuiz-data is 261MB and openarena-data is 260MB for example.
Rahul
10:44 p.m.
On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> Wow, which games take up the most space? I had no idea we had space
> problems already. I thought the space problems were only for CDs. Is
> there any kind of breakdown on space requirements for each game?
I need to sync my local copy of rawhide for a complete breakdown but
usually the data package for many 3D games are considerably large.
nexuiz-data is 261MB and openarena-data is 260MB for example.
We are talking about a DVD here right?
11:21 p.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
On 9/11/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher Stone wrote:
>
>> Wow, which games take up the most space? I had no idea we had space
>> problems already. I thought the space problems were only for CDs. Is
>> there any kind of breakdown on space requirements for each game?
> I need to sync my local copy of rawhide for a complete breakdown but
> usually the data package for many 3D games are considerably large.
> nexuiz-data is 261MB and openarena-data is 260MB for example.
We are talking about a DVD here right?
Yep. Check out the kickstart file I have provided and do a local spin
and see what size it is.
Rahul
11:58 p.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Yep. Check out the kickstart file I have provided and do a local spin
>> and see what size it is.
>
> Where was that again?
See later mails on this list for the details.
Okay, well I guess I don't have time to do that. So I guess I can
assume we have plenty of free space on the DVD. So, we have have lots
of free space, why don't we include KDE?
12:01 a.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher Stone wrote:
>> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>> Yep. Check out the kickstart file I have provided and do a local spin
>>> and see what size it is.
>> Where was that again?
> See later mails on this list for the details.
Okay, well I guess I don't have time to do that. So I guess I can
assume we have plenty of free space on the DVD. So, we have have lots
of free space, why don't we include KDE?
I believe I already answered your question earlier. This is a games spin
and I don't think the goals filling up an entire DVD if any space is
left based on your unverified assumptions to put additional desktop
environments in it. A Fedora games spin is a show case for good Free
software games. If users want KDE, they already have a KDE spin available.
Rahul
12:09 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Christopher Stone wrote:
>>> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>> Yep. Check out the kickstart file I have provided and do a local spin
>>>> and see what size it is.
>>> Where was that again?
>> See later mails on this list for the details.
>
> Okay, well I guess I don't have time to do that. So I guess I can
> assume we have plenty of free space on the DVD. So, we have have lots
> of free space, why don't we include KDE?
I believe I already answered your question earlier. This is a games spin
and I don't think the goals filling up an entire DVD if any space is
left based on your unverified assumptions to put additional desktop
environments in it. A Fedora games spin is a show case for good Free
software games. If users want KDE, they already have a KDE spin available.
What the hell are you talking about? You cant play the games without
a desktop. Why is GNOME installed?
12:15 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Christopher Stone <chris.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher Stone wrote:
> > On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >> Christopher Stone wrote:
> >>> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>>> Yep. Check out the kickstart file I have provided and do a local
spin
> >>>> and see what size it is.
> >>> Where was that again?
> >> See later mails on this list for the details.
> >
> > Okay, well I guess I don't have time to do that. So I guess I can
> > assume we have plenty of free space on the DVD. So, we have have lots
> > of free space, why don't we include KDE?
>
> I believe I already answered your question earlier. This is a games spin
> and I don't think the goals filling up an entire DVD if any space is
> left based on your unverified assumptions to put additional desktop
> environments in it. A Fedora games spin is a show case for good Free
> software games. If users want KDE, they already have a KDE spin available.
What the hell are you talking about? You cant play the games without
a desktop. Why is GNOME installed?
This is just a bunch of BS IMO. You think free space is better than
allowing a user to choose between KDE and GNOME? You make up some
stupid argument about this being a game spin and how game spins only
have room for *your* favorite desktop. Give me a break...
12:20 a.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
>> I believe I already answered your question earlier. This is a
games spin
>> and I don't think the goals filling up an entire DVD if any space is
>> left based on your unverified assumptions to put additional desktop
>> environments in it. A Fedora games spin is a show case for good Free
>> software games. If users want KDE, they already have a KDE spin available.
> What the hell are you talking about? You cant play the games without
> a desktop. Why is GNOME installed?
As I said earlier I derived the games spin from the desktop spin
kickstart file and that's the reason why we have GNOME.
This is just a bunch of BS IMO. You think free space is better than
allowing a user to choose between KDE and GNOME?
Yes. Saves up downloading time and bandwidth is still costly/limited in
many regions including where I am. In the future, we would probably
include more games if we indeed have any space left. I would appreciate
you take your time you spend on this arguments to do local testing of
the spin, the details which I have in other threads that followed this one.
You make up some
stupid argument about this being a game spin and how game spins only
have room for *your* favorite desktop. Give me a break...
A more civil tone in such discussions would be helpful. I am not
interested in a desktop environment flamewar and this isn't the right
forum for that and for the record I am one of the people who supported
the KDE SIG in their efforts and kickstarted some discussions around
forming a community around it when I was a Fedora Board member. Ask the
KDE SIG folks like Rex Dieter if I am biased on that matter.
Now let's get back to the topic of games. Shall we?
Rahul
12:37 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
>>> I believe I already answered your question earlier. This is a games spin
>>> and I don't think the goals filling up an entire DVD if any space is
>>> left based on your unverified assumptions to put additional desktop
>>> environments in it. A Fedora games spin is a show case for good Free
>>> software games. If users want KDE, they already have a KDE spin available.
>> What the hell are you talking about? You cant play the games without
>> a desktop. Why is GNOME installed?
As I said earlier I derived the games spin from the desktop spin
kickstart file and that's the reason why we have GNOME.
Why not derive one from the KDE spin then? How hard can it be? I
guess I will have to do it myself this weekend. How long would it
take? 5 minutes? Let me know, thanks.
12:39 a.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
Why not derive one from the KDE spin then? How hard can it be? I
guess I will have to do it myself this weekend. How long would it
take? 5 minutes? Let me know, thanks.
You can do whatever spins you like. If you based your kickstart file on
mine, it shouldn't take more than a few mins but why are you so keen on
any particular desktop environment for games? It is fundamentally a
unimportant detail for a games spin.
Why not concentrate of which games to include, package or review or
atleast test my spin and provide me some feedback instead of spending
time which you claimed you didn't have to read my other mails on
seemingly redundant work.
Rahul
12:46 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> Why not derive one from the KDE spin then? How hard can it be? I
> guess I will have to do it myself this weekend. How long would it
> take? 5 minutes? Let me know, thanks.
You can do whatever spins you like. If you based your kickstart file on
mine, it shouldn't take more than a few mins but why are you so keen on
any particular desktop environment for games? It is fundamentally a
unimportant detail for a games spin.
Why not concentrate of which games to include, package or review or
atleast test my spin and provide me some feedback instead of spending
time which you claimed you didn't have to read my other mails on
seemingly redundant work.
I'm curious to know how much extra space it actually takes. I would
also be interested in space requirements for using xfce or even just
twm.
12:56 a.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
> Why not concentrate of which games to include, package or review
or
> atleast test my spin and provide me some feedback instead of spending
> time which you claimed you didn't have to read my other mails on
> seemingly redundant work.
I'm curious to know how much extra space it actually takes. I would
also be interested in space requirements for using xfce or even just
twm.
While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
not good, is not user-friendly enough).
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1:04 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
>> Why not concentrate of which games to include, package or review or
>> atleast test my spin and provide me some feedback instead of spending
>> time which you claimed you didn't have to read my other mails on
>> seemingly redundant work.
>
> I'm curious to know how much extra space it actually takes. I would
> also be interested in space requirements for using xfce or even just
> twm.
While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
not good, is not user-friendly enough).
For the record, I too would be in favor of using xfce especially if it
saves space. There is also the fact that no other spin has xfce as a
default, so this too I think would be cool.
+1
1:08 a.m.
Nicu Buculei wrote:
While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME
and
KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
not good, is not user-friendly enough).
I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
Rahul
1:15 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Nicu Buculei wrote:
> While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
> KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
> some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
> consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
> not good, is not user-friendly enough).
I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
So you are saying we should use KDE?
1:23 a.m.
Christopher Stone wrote:
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
>
>> While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
>> KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
>> some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
>> consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
>> not good, is not user-friendly enough).
> I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
> discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
> download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
> it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
So you are saying we should use KDE?
Come on Christopher Stone. Just drop this pointless argument. I have
already said that I don't consider the choice of desktop environment to
be very important in this instace. Your instance of discussing this in
length is only serving as a distraction from useful work like testing
out the spin. Please do that instead.
Rahul
1:34 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Nicu Buculei wrote:
>>
>>> While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
>>> KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
>>> some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
>>> consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
>>> not good, is not user-friendly enough).
>> I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
>> discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
>> download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
>> it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
>
> So you are saying we should use KDE?
Come on Christopher Stone. Just drop this pointless argument. I have
already said that I don't consider the choice of desktop environment to
be very important in this instace. Your instance of discussing this in
length is only serving as a distraction from useful work like testing
out the spin. Please do that instead.
I would rather test out a KDE or Xfce spin. If I can find the time
this weekend I might try making a kickstart file for an Xfce version
and test that, and try to get space requirements on the different
desktop configurations.
5:54 a.m.
On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Christopher Stone wrote:
> > On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >>
> >>> While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME
> and
> >>> KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce
> has
> >>> some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and
> RAM
> >>> consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default
> is
> >>> not good, is not user-friendly enough).
> >> I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
> >> discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
> >> download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
> >> it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
> >
> > So you are saying we should use KDE?
>
> Come on Christopher Stone. Just drop this pointless argument. I have
> already said that I don't consider the choice of desktop environment to
> be very important in this instace. Your instance of discussing this in
> length is only serving as a distraction from useful work like testing
> out the spin. Please do that instead.
I would rather test out a KDE or Xfce spin. If I can find the time
this weekend I might try making a kickstart file for an Xfce version
and test that, and try to get space requirements on the different
desktop configurations.
Personally, I think XFCE and Gnome would be my preferences, in that order.
XFCE because it's light (although we'd probably have gnome and kde libs
installed anyway for several games) and Gnome because it's the default for
Fedora and what Joe Sixpack will expect if he's used a vanilla spin.
Nothing against KDE, just seems simpler this way. In fact, given the
library deps, just using Gnome and not installing XFCE might be lighter
still. I agree with Rahul, we should be focusing on the games, despite
our personal preferences. For example, I maintain nexuiz, even though I
SUCK at it. :)
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1. On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Christopher Stone wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Nicu Buculei wrote:
>>
>>> While I don't think including two big desktop environments (GNOME and
>>> KDE) is a good idea (better include more games instead), using xfce has
>>> some merits, not because of disk space but because of less CPU and RAM
>>> consumption, leaving more free for games (IMO using twm as default is
>>> not good, is not user-friendly enough).
>> I am of that opinion too but it's quite surprising that we would
>> discussing desktop environments or window managers so much. Users who
>> download a games spin are unlikely to care much about that as long is
>> it's usable, attractive and familiar IMO.
>
> So you are saying we should use KDE?
Come on Christopher Stone. Just drop this pointless argument. I have
already said that I don't consider the choice of desktop environment to
be very important in this instace. Your instance of discussing this in
length is only serving as a distraction from useful work like testing
out the spin. Please do that instead.
I agree, I already have both Gnome and KDE installed, so I'd hate to
waste the bandwidth sucking down something already installed. I haven't
seen much of any kind of program that didn't work under both. I'd leave
it as an exercise for the user to decide what he wants to run as his
games desktop. I'm running Croquet (which is practically another OS) on
a KDE desktop and with plenty of CPU and memory, no sweat. My older
Pentium 4 would gag. So, I'd cure it with xfce. My choice, and I'd make
it for me and my needs. That's the Linux way. Keep the spin simply
games. Ric
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Rahul, Chris, or Chris, Rahul,
Can you please continue your little flamewar in private please?
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