4:48 p.m.
Well, we haven't even had koji for a full release cycle yet and we're
already worried about storage:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&rra_id=al...
There are plans to implement a koji purger that gets rid of some of our
builds but I've not seen any estimates as to how much space this will
get us. I doubt, highly, that it will be more than half recovery.
Given the worst case scenario we need to purchase additional storage
immediately. Thats what this email is about.
Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps, which
stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in to
consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it costs /
G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything to add to
the list just let me know.
-Mike
9:18 a.m.
Mike,
Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps,
which
stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in to
consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it costs /
G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything to add to
the list just let me know.
I'm a big Netapp fan. It's expensive, but really blazing fast and has a
lot of very nice features. But, it's not for cheap mass storage.
Have you looked at Coraid Etherdrive? They also have a NAS Gateway to go
with it.
Kind regards,
Mark Wormgoor
9:12 a.m.
Mark Wormgoor wrote:
Mike,
> Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps, which
> stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
> that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
> like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
> koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
> models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in
> to consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it
> costs / G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything
> to add to the list just let me know.
I'm a big Netapp fan. It's expensive, but really blazing fast and has
a lot of very nice features. But, it's not for cheap mass storage.
Have you looked at Coraid Etherdrive? They also have a NAS Gateway to
go with it.
I haven't but I'll add it to the list, if you have a specific
interesting link send it my way.
-Mike
12:56 p.m.
EMC makes a couple of different lines with low, mid, & high end models.
Not sure if you are looking for a SAN or NAS device, but they also over
"gateway" product that offers both.
NAS/SAN - http://www.emc.com/products/networking/servers/index.jsp
SAN - http://www.emc.com/products/systems/clariion.jsp
-Art
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:12:23 -0500
From: mmcgrath(a)redhat.com
To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com
Subject: Re: Storage woes... again
Mark Wormgoor wrote:
> Mike,
>
>> Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps, which
>> stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
>> that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
>> like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
>> koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
>> models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in
>> to consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it
>> costs / G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything
>> to add to the list just let me know.
>
> I'm a big Netapp fan. It's expensive, but really blazing fast and has
> a lot of very nice features. But, it's not for cheap mass storage.
>
> Have you looked at Coraid Etherdrive? They also have a NAS Gateway to
> go with it.
I haven't but I'll add it to the list, if you have a specific
interesting link send it my way.
-Mike
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9:33 a.m.
On Friday 12 October 2007 9:18:13 am Mark Wormgoor wrote:
Mike,
> Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps, which
> stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
> that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
> like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
> koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
> models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in to
> consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it costs /
> G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything to add to
> the list just let me know.
I'm a big Netapp fan. It's expensive, but really blazing fast and has a
lot of very nice features. But, it's not for cheap mass storage.
Have you looked at Coraid Etherdrive? They also have a NAS Gateway to go
with it.
I use Coraid at work http://www.coraid.com its fairly cheap List price
on a
shelf is USD$5000 each shelf holds 15 sata drives. you could use there nas
gateway. however fedora has all the tools in to distro to connect and manage
the shelves they use the aoe module in the kernel. we could cluster koji
and use GFS on the backend.
Dennis
7:33 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 04:48:02PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
Right now we're storing our stuff on some pretty quick netapps,
which
stinks considering that koji is only accessing a small percentage of
that storage at any point in time and even then... its over NFS. I'd
like to propose we move to cheaper storage that is dedicated to just
koji. There are a number of options to do this, including different
models of netapps. I'm putting a spreadsheet together that takes in to
consideration price, how much we get and figures out how much it costs /
G / month over a 4 year period. If you guys know of anything to add to
the list just let me know.
For "cheap" storage the most popular solution in the HEP (High Energy
Physics) community are linux boxes with 3ware raid controllers. The
Areca controllers have also appeared lately in some places and since
the driver is now part of the kernel I expect to see more of them.
A few Sun thumpers started to show up (just one site added something
around 1PB recently with them) and they are very good solutions if your
space is limited (48 sata slots in 4U). If you bought the ZFS hype (I
am not convinced yet) they are even more attractive.
Cheers,
Kostas Georgiou
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